Angular momentum coupling - worked out examples?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concepts of angular momentum coupling, specifically focusing on the 3j, 6j, and 9j symbols, the Wigner-Eckart theorem, and the associated mathematical notation. Participants express a need for fully worked out example calculations to better understand these topics, which are typically covered in graduate-level courses.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in understanding the notation related to angular momentum coupling and requests worked examples.
  • Another participant suggests that understanding tensor products and their physical representation may alleviate some confusion, recommending Cohen-Tanoudji's Quantum Mechanics as a resource.
  • A different participant shares their mixed experience with Cohen-Tanoudji, noting its complexity but also its usefulness for clarifying tensor products and angular momentum topics.
  • One participant recommends the Schaum's Outline on Quantum Mechanics for sample problems at a similar level to Sakurai's book.
  • Several participants highlight Sakurai's Modern Quantum Mechanics as an excellent resource for understanding angular momentum and symmetries, with one noting a particularly good chapter on the subject.
  • Another participant mentions Condon and Shortley's book for its worked examples, despite its mathematical rigor, as a potential starting point for those struggling with the material.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the difficulty of the notation and the need for worked examples. However, there is no consensus on a single best resource, as various books are suggested, each with differing levels of clarity and detail.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that these topics are typically taught in graduate courses, and there is an acknowledgment of the varying levels of detail provided in different textbooks. Some participants express frustration with the lack of worked examples in the literature.

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3j, 6j, 9j -symbols, Wigner-Eckart theorem, reducible matrix element, irreducible (spherical) tensor. I just cannot understand the notation. I just cannot fully understand the physics behind those concepts. Where can I find fully worked out example calculations?

Especially, the notation is difficult for me. Please, give some help. I am a Bachelor of Science in Physics. :blushing: :rolleyes: :cry:
 
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The notation is bad I admit.

Things like |a>|b> actually represent the tensor product of the vectors |a> and |b>. If you know that, and understand the mathematics of tensor products, and understand what a tensor product of kets represent physically, then you should, in principle, not have any more difficulty solving problems.

I personally prefer this approach to looking at a lot of examples and trying to osmose in a problem solving algorithm. I cannot redirect you to solved problems but if you want to try and tame the beast the way I suggested, then have a look at Cohen-Tanoudji's Quantum Mechanics Vol. I Chapter II §F (p.153 in my edition): Tensor product of State Space.
 
I used Cohen-Tanoudji in the past. At the time I hated it because I could never find anything I was looking for. I've used it to study on my own a bit more recently and some things I was fuzzy about involving tensor products came clear. I also didn't like their over use of notation for EVERYTHING, the first time around, but it proved to be helpfull when i was reviewing angular momentum. They have a nice worked example involving the fine and hyper-fine structure of hydrogen in vol II somewhere, but the Wigner-Eckart theorem is relegated to one of the post chapter appendices. I also like their treatment of identical particles.

Another angular momentum gold mine is Sakurai's book Modern Quantum Mechanics. He treats this along side symmetries and does a very nice job.
 
If it's sample problems you want then get the Schaum's Outline called Quantum Mechanics. It's at a level similar to Sakurai.
 
Urvabara said:
3j, 6j, 9j -symbols, Wigner-Eckart theorem, reducible matrix element, irreducible (spherical) tensor. I just cannot understand the notation. I just cannot fully understand the physics behind those concepts. Where can I find fully worked out example calculations?

Especially, the notation is difficult for me. Please, give some help. I am a Bachelor of Science in Physics. :blushing: :rolleyes: :cry:

Normally these topics are taught in a graduate course, Cohen-Tanoudji has been mentioned, Liboff has some but not much. At a more advanced level, try Tinkham's Group Theory and Quantum Mechanics book (Dover). The problem I have found in the past is that you do not see anything worked out in detail. An oldie is Condon and Shortley or even Wigner's book, they are highly mathematical but if you can wade through them you will come out ahead. I'd start with Condon and Shortley because they actually work out some of the numerics you want to know.
 
Allday said:
Another angular momentum gold mine is Sakurai's book Modern Quantum Mechanics. He treats this along side symmetries and does a very nice job.

I'd second the Sakurai choice. It's a brilliant chapter the one on angular momentum and rotation symmetry.
 

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