Will Cast Iron dissolve in dil. or conc. acid?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the dissolution of cast iron in sulfuric acid, focusing on the methods to determine the percentage purity of iron in cast iron through redox titration. Participants explore the effectiveness of dilute versus concentrated sulfuric acid and consider alternative acids like hydrochloric acid.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to reduce iron in cast iron to Fe2+ using sulfuric acid and questions whether dilute or concentrated acid is necessary.
  • Another participant asserts that cast iron should react with both dilute and concentrated sulfuric acid to produce FeSO4, suggesting that dilute acid is preferable to avoid sulfur dioxide gas production.
  • A different viewpoint proposes using hydrochloric acid to dissolve iron, emphasizing the avoidance of oxidation and suggesting the addition of SnCl2 and HgCl2 to manage oxidation states during titration.
  • A participant expresses concern about potential interference from chloride ions in hydrochloric acid during the titration against MnO4-, questioning the impact of these ions as reducing agents.
  • There is a clarification regarding the oxidation process of iron to Fe2+, with one participant acknowledging a mistake in terminology and confirming the oxidation process.
  • Another participant raises a question about whether impurities in cast iron will also dissolve in dilute acid.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views on the best acid to use for dissolving cast iron and the implications of using each type of acid. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal method and the behavior of impurities in the dissolution process.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the effects of different acids on the dissolution process and the potential interference from impurities and ions in the solutions. There are also unresolved questions about the specific behavior of cast iron in various acidic environments.

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Hi,
I have searched rigorously for a solution to this problem but I seem to get inconclusive answers. I want to find the percentage purity of iron in cast iron and the best way to go about this is a redox titration. The first step is to reduce the Iron to Fe2+ . I intend to do this by reacting it with Sulphuric Acid and forming FeSO4. The only thing is, will cast iron react with dilute sulphuric acid (<1M) or does it require concentrated acid (>1M)? I know with conc. acid the resulting products are FeSO4 + SO2 + H2O and just FeSO4 + H2 with dilute acid. Any advice/feedback would be much appreciated.
 
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The first step is to reduce the Iron to Fe2+
Well, technically, that would be Oxidation to Fe+2.
LEO GER Loose Electrons Oxidation, Gain Electrons Reduction.

Cast Iron should react with both concentrated and dilute Sulfuric acid to produce an aqueous solution of Iron (II) Sulfate.
Since both conc. and dil. H2SO4 will produce FeSO4 (aq) which is what your aiming for, you might as well use dilute since you will not have to deal with the Sulfur Dioxide gas being produced in the reaction.
 
I would rather try to dissolve iron in HCl, avoiding oxidation at all. Even then Fe2+ solutions tend to get oxidized with air oxygen so just before titration you should add some SnCl2 to reduce Fe3+ to Fe2+, then some HgCl2 to remove excess Sn2+:

SnCl2 + 2HgCl2 -> SnCl4 + Hg2Cl2

(note Hg2Cl2 is weakly soluble and doesn't interfere during manganometric titration).

Check details in some handook, I am sure Vogel should list some methods.
 
Borek said:
I would rather try to dissolve iron in HCl, avoiding oxidation at all. Even then Fe2+ solutions tend to get oxidized with air oxygen so just before titration you should add some SnCl2 to reduce Fe3+ to Fe2+, then some HgCl2 to remove excess Sn2+:

SnCl2 + 2HgCl2 -> SnCl4 + Hg2Cl2

(note Hg2Cl2 is weakly soluble and doesn't interfere during manganometric titration).

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Hello, thank you for your reply. That is a great addition which will score valuable marks. My only problem with using HCl is that after oxidation to Fe2+ I intend to titrate against MnO4- thus oxidizing further to Fe3+. Won't Cl- from the HCl interfere as it is a reducing agent?
 
mrjeffy321 said:
Well, technically, that would be Oxidation to Fe+2.
LEO GER Loose Electrons Oxidation, Gain Electrons Reduction.

Cast Iron should react with both concentrated and dilute Sulfuric acid to produce an aqueous solution of Iron (II) Sulfate.
Since both conc. and dil. H2SO4 will produce FeSO4 (aq) which is what your aiming for, you might as well use dilute since you will not have to deal with the Sulfur Dioxide gas being produced in the reaction.

Ah yes my bad it is oxidizing.. posted in a hurry! Thank you very much I'm glad that's sorted. What about the impurities in cast iron will they also dissolve in dilute acid?
 

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