Will the Arctic Cold Front Cause Severe Weather and Damage to Crops?

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The discussion centers around varying winter weather experiences across different regions. An Arctic cold front is expected to bring severe conditions, including strong winds and potential blizzard-like conditions, leading to dangerously low wind chills in some areas. Participants share personal weather updates, with some experiencing significant snowfall while others report mild conditions. Notably, areas in the Midwest and parts of the UK are facing heavy snow, while regions like Western Washington and parts of Florida are seeing typical winter temperatures without snow. Concerns about the impact of cold weather on crops, infrastructure challenges in handling snow, and personal anecdotes about coping with the cold are prevalent. The conversation also touches on the contrasting experiences of those in warmer climates, highlighting the diverse impacts of winter weather across the globe.
  • #751
Evo said:
Are the salt trucks out? People just don't realize how dangerous this slushy stuff can be.
The plows have been out once. In our area, they've declared a state of emergency, so folks are supposed to stay home. The objective is to prevent accidents and keep the roads clean. The roads are very bad because they are above freezing and the air temp is only 30F. The snow was a heavy wet snow for about 5 hrs, then is turned to a granular, powdery snow or sleet, and now it's back to small flakes, and the snowfall is not as heavy.

They may wait until the snow stops to plow again.

We've got about 8 inches, and about 15 miles north of us, they have 11 inches. Lots of trees are down, and about 85,000 people are without power, which is not fun at night, and without heat.
 
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  • #752
Why is every normal variation in the weather these days a "national state of emergency?"

When I was young, it snowed, we shoveled. It rained and flooded, we sandbagged. We had multiple days above 100, power outages, water outages, thunderstorms, gust fronts, hurricanes, and tornadoes.

When it subsided, we cleaned up and moved on.

A couple of things we did and didn't do: We didn't build on a flood plain, or if we did, we built on stilts. If we built in tornado alley, we had an underground shelter, and didn't put tons of money into the house. In hurricane country, we chopped down any trees which posed a threat to the house, and kept our cars garaged.

We stockpiled water in jugs. Food in cans. We had a gas-powered chainsaw, and a block and tackle for clearing debris. Some of us had a generator, and we'd sometimes gather in one person's house for comfort because they could run A/C. We'd bring food and water as a way of saying "thank you." We'd work at night if the heat during the day was too much.

I recall one summer during a power outage we merely stayed wet in cotton clothing just to beat the daytime heat for three days until power was restored. In the old days, they did the same thing, but simply sweated into their clothing.

Every variation in the weather is normal. It's happened millions of times over the billions of years. Since when did normal become a crisis or a disaster? "Disasters" are normal. If people aren't prepared, it's Darwin's fault.

Back to the question: Since when did normal become a crisis or a disaster? Since media became involved? Since people lost the skill/art of basic human survival? Since people figured out how to scam the government for big bucks to cover what they were too lazy to prevent with a few simple and cost-effective measures ahead of time?

Call me stupid, but when I couldn't afford a tree guy, I watched one for two days then bought a pair of spurs and cut my own. "Sacrilege!" you say. Guess what his training was? He watched a guy for a day or two, and started doing the same.

Have we lost the basic survival skilled called "self-sufficiency?"

What's going on, here?
 
  • #753
DoggerDan said:
What's going on, here?

Welcome to the 21st Century.
 
  • #754
Borek said:
Welcome to the 21st Century.

So everyone needs their hand held these days?
 
  • #755
DoggerDan said:
So everyone needs their hand held these days?

Stick with your buddy, and hold hands as you cross the street.
 
  • #756
Supposed to snow tonight and tomorrow morning.
 
  • #757
Local towns have opened up fields where folks can dump branches, and I saw lots of people hauling branches in pickup trucks and/or on trailers. I even saw branches/trees on power lines - still - after 6 days. And there are still people without power. Most of the snow has melted. I've go a bit of cleaning up to do myself. Two of our trees lost one or more branches.

It's been below freezing the last several nights, but 40s or 50s during the day, and it's supposed to warm up to the 60s during the next couple of days.
 
  • #758
I finally got my garlic in the ground today. I didn't want to wait any longer in case we got more wild/cold weather. There are still too many leaves on my fruit trees to make pruning them viable (visibility problems), but that has to be done soon, in part to address storm damage and properly balance the trees before winter. Lost branches due to the heavy wet snow.

Central Maine Power sent line-crews to NH to help restore power, and now they are headed to CT to help out there. As of Friday, there were still over 300K customers without power in CT. CMP is volunteering 30 two-man repair trucks with buckets, so that should help.
 
  • #759
I saw an out-of-territory crew in our area this morning. I couldn't tell if they were from out of state, or just a neighboring utility.

There is still a lot of work to do around our area.
 
  • #760
Astronuc said:
I saw an out-of-territory crew in our area this morning. I couldn't tell if they were from out of state, or just a neighboring utility.

There is still a lot of work to do around our area.
I believe that there was a crew form Kansas City that went there; KCPL.
 
  • #761
It's not cold, but cool enough for rain. YEA! It's been so long since I've heard thunder.
 
  • #762
dlgoff said:
It's not cold, but cool enough for rain. YEA! It's been so long since I've heard thunder.
You've got thunder?? No fair, I've just got rain. :frown:

Make sure our chicken child, Roger, stays warm and dry.
 
  • #763
Evo said:
You've got thunder?? No fair, I've just got rain. :frown:

Make sure our chicken child, Roger, stays warm and dry.
Well, only three of four lightning bolts ... wait, there's another.

I closed Rogers windows, put in a higher wattage bulb, and adjusted the lights timer about a week ago when the temps starting to dipping to freezing. When it starts to get really cold, she'll have a heat lamp and a water heater in her house.

A happy Roger will give us good eggs.
 
  • #764
dlgoff said:
Well, only three of four lightning bolts ... wait, there's another.

I closed Rogers windows, put in a higher wattage bulb, and adjusted the lights timer about a week ago when the temps starting to dipping to freezing. When it starts to get really cold, she'll have a heat lamp and a water heater in her house.

A happy Roger will give us good eggs.
:!) You are so good to her!

I can not thank you enough for the delivery of Roger eggs! I have been eating grits and Roger eggs every day. THANK YOU SO MUCH!
 
  • #765
Evo said:
I have been eating grits and Roger eggs every day.
How have you been preparing them? Lately I've been using my steamer and poaching two, covering with salsa and having with wheat toast. YUM
 
  • #766
dlgoff said:
How have you been preparing them? Lately I've been using my steamer and poaching two, covering with salsa and having with wheat toast. YUM
Over easy in butter. I wish I had some salsa.

I think I'm going to make a quiche.

I wish I had asked you to include a feather. I've never had a chicken before. I'm pretty excited.
 
  • #767
Evo said:
I wish I had asked you to include a feather. I've never had a chicken before. I'm pretty excited.
I've haven't seen her shed a feather since the encounter with the fox. And since there's no roosters, she's slick and shinny.

BTW. This was a little while ago for Roger and I.

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  • #768
dlgoff said:
I've haven't seen her shed a feather since the encounter with the fox. And since there's no roosters, she's slick and shinny.

BTW. This was a little while ago for Roger and I.

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Good grief, hope she's not afraid of thunder!

Looks like that won't get here until 9pm.
 
  • #769
White roofs in the morning, but they are wet and steaming now.
 
  • #770
Wednesday night and yesterday morning, 15 cm (6 inches) of snow fell here. This morning, I had a 25 minute walk at -16 C ( 3 F).
 
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  • #771
George Jones said:
Wednesday night and yesterday morning, 15 cm (6 inches) of snow fell here. This morning, I had a 25 minute walk at -16 C ( 3 F).
Brrrrrrr!
 
  • #772
My truck was all white with frost this morning. In the "heat of the day" we have climbed all the way up to 42 deg.
 
  • #773
Sunny and 46 F here. Perfect for raking leaves.
 
  • #774
Ok, it's going to get up to 70F here today, but with 40-50 MPH winds.

Don - make sure roger is wearing her lead booties if she goes out, don't want her being blown away. :eek:
 
  • #775
Evo said:
Ok, it's going to get up to 70F here today, but with 40-50 MPH winds.

Don - make sure roger is wearing her lead booties if she goes out, don't want her being blown away. :eek:
Will do. I might get a wind detached feather for you. She did shed a tail feather that I kept but I'm waiting for a nice long red wing feather.

The small wind generator I'm making will be used to provide Roger with some of the comforts of home. This wind is perfect for it's initial test.
 
  • #776
dlgoff said:
Will do. I might get a wind detached feather for you. She did shed a tail feather that I kept but I'm waiting for a nice long red wing feather.

The small wind generator I'm making will be used to provide Roger with some of the comforts of home. This wind is perfect for it's initial test.
Oooh, you're wonderful! An electric fireplace (for safety), flat screen tv, music system. I heard mellow music encourages egg laying.
 
  • #777
We're in line to get 8-12" of snow starting later tonight and into tomorrow. I'm as ready as I can expect to be, given the circumstances, but there is still stuff that I'd like to get done.
 
  • #778
We're expecting snow in Maine down here too, but nothing locally. I know for you the first 3 inches don't count, but it looks like you're in for more than twice that. Did you get that snowblower with the heated cabin?
 
  • #779
I have a walk-behind snow-blower for the light stuff (maybe 6-10 inches) with no cabin at all, and a tractor with a bucket in case the snow is really deep and/or wet. We can never tell with these early storms.
 
  • #780
George Jones said:
Wednesday night and yesterday morning, 15 cm (6 inches) of snow fell here. This morning, I had a 25 minute walk at -16 C ( 3 F).

Here in eastern Montana, on Thursday night November 17, the low was -2° F ( -18.9° C ).

I didn't have to go for a walk, though... lol

We have about the same amount of snow as you do, also... typical weather for this time of year.Just for some fun information, if anybody would like to reply... what's the lowest temperature you've ever experienced?

It was -52° F ( -46.7° C ) here, for a couple of days... think it was 1986, or there about, I don't remember the month.

OCR
 

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