Will Y-Direction Motion Cease with X-Direction Acceleration Only?

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The discussion centers on the behavior of an object moving with initial velocity in both x and y directions, experiencing acceleration only in the x direction. It concludes that while the angle of movement approaches zero, the y-component of velocity remains constant and does not reduce to zero. This is illustrated through the example of a rock projected from a cliff, which maintains its y-velocity despite increasing x-velocity, resulting in a parabolic trajectory that never becomes vertical.

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JimWhoKnew said:
I realize now that if ##~\dot{\theta}(0)=0## , then ##~\vec{a}(0)~## must be tangential. So the residual freedom seems to be very limited.
Yes, as I wrote in post #21, you can (only) elect to switch the sign of the tangential acceleration arbitrarily, but if you choose not to you must arrive at ##\dot{\omega}=0##.
JimWhoKnew said:
I don't know what you mean by "cause and effect",
As in, the given differential equation accurately represents the dynamics, so applying it in a simulation should produce the same result.
But here we do not know the basis of the equation, and indeed it cannot represent dynamics because the quadratic in the differential equation has two solutions.
JimWhoKnew said:
but as in #23
##\dot x^2+x^2=1,\quad x(0)=0,\quad t\ge 0.##
has a solution ##x(t)=\sin t## for all ##t\ge 0##, and also
##\dot{x}=\sqrt{1-x^2}##
near the maximum. But obviously ##x(t)## doesn't get stuck at ##x=1## .
The SHM analogy is interesting. In the first order ODE form it has the same issue: two solutions, and simulation would not discover the cyclic nature. But the usual second order ODE has neither of those problems. The algebraic process of deriving the first order from the second order involves multiplying by ##\dot x##, thus creating the "stuck" solution.
JimWhoKnew said:
The resolution comes from higher order derivatives.

Yes, that dawned on me overnight. E.g. if we require ##\ddot\omega## to be continuous then we only get the cyclic solution.
 

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