With what speed does the car then strike the tree?

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The problem involves a car that is braking uniformly before hitting a tree. The car's acceleration is given, along with the time and distance over which it slows down. Participants are tasked with determining the speed at which the car strikes the tree.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to find the initial speed before calculating the final speed. There are questions about whether the initial speed can be assumed to be zero, and some participants suggest using kinematic equations to relate distance, acceleration, and time.

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There is ongoing exploration of the problem, with some participants providing alternative approaches and questioning the assumptions made about initial speed. A few participants have attempted calculations, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct values or methods yet.

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Participants are navigating the implications of negative acceleration and the direction of motion, which affects their calculations. The problem's setup and the assumptions about initial conditions are under scrutiny.

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Homework Statement


THe driver of a car slams on the brakes when he sees a tree blocking the road. The car slows uniformly with acceleration 5.10m/s^2 for 4.40s, making straight skid marks 64.6 m long ending at the tree. With what speed does the car then strike the tree?

Homework Equations


vxf=vxi+axt
d=(vi+vf/2)t


The Attempt at a Solution



a=5.10m/s^2
t=4.40s

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a=5.10m/s^2
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vi=0 4.40s

d=64.6m

d=(vi+vf/2)t
64.6m=(om/s+vf/2)4.40

Then I would solve for vf, right?

Thank you very much
 
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I'm having trouble deciphering what you've done. You need to find the initial speed first, then you can find the final speed.
 
Thank you

Wouldn't vi be 0? If it isn't 0, then I could't determine the initial speed and the final speed if I'm not given either one, right? because I could use the equation vxf=vxi+axt, but if I don't know what vf or vi are, then I can't solve this, right?

Is this completely wrong? if so, could you please give me a hint?

Thank you very much
 
what you're trying to solve for is the final velocity. If the initial velocity was zero then that wouldn't make sense since the driver wouldn't have to brake at all. What you need to do is find the initial velocity from the information given before finding the final velocity. Think of a kinematic equation involving intial velocity, acceleration, distance and time.
 
I know that xf=xi+vxit+1/2axt^2 Does this look right?

64.6m=0m+vxi(4.40s)+1/2(5.10m/s^2)(4.40s^2)
vxi=3.462

vxf=vxi+axt

vxf=3.462m/s+5.10m/s^2(4.40s)
=25.902m/s

Thank you very much
 
The initial speed will not be 3.462m/s. Remember to be careful with signs.
 
64.6m=0m+vxi(4.40s)+1/2(5.10m/s^2)(4.40s^2)

I can't seem to find what I'm doing wrong. Xf is 64.6m and xi is 0m, right?

Thank you
 
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Well if you're slowing down the acceleration will be in the opposite direction to the direction of travel and it will therefore be negative.
 
How long would a road have to go unused in order for someone to find it blocked by a tree?

This is the dumbest physics problem evar!
 
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Would this work?

x=64m
a=-5.10m/s
t=4.4s

x=vit+1/2at^2

64m=vi(4.4s)+1/2(-5.1m/s)(4.4s)^2

vi=25.8m/s

vf^2=vi^2+2ax

vf^2=25.8m/s^2+2(-5.10m/s^2)(64m)

=3.6m/s

Thank you
 
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chocolatelover said:
Would this work?

x=64m
a=-5.10m/s
t=4.4s

x=vit+1/2at^2

64m=vi(4.4s)+1/2(-5.1m/s)(4.4s)^2

vi=25.8m/s

vf^2=vi^2+2ax

vf^2=25.8m/s^2+2(-5.10m/s^2)(64m)

=3.6m/s

Thank you

That looks ok to me.
 
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Thank you very much

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