Word problem involving function expression

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The problem involves a cable submerged in seawater that is experiencing corrosion, leading to a reduction in its surface area over time. The original poster seeks to express the diameter of the cable as a function of time, given the initial diameter and the rate of surface area reduction.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the diameter and surface area, with some attempting to derive a formula for the change in diameter over time. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of the surface area formula and the implications of the rate of change.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the mathematical relationships involved, with participants providing insights into the changes in diameter and surface area. Some participants express confusion over certain steps in the derivation and seek clarification on the reasoning behind specific formulas.

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One participant notes a correction in the problem statement regarding the units of the rate of surface area reduction, which may have contributed to misunderstandings in the discussion.

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Homework Statement



A 300-foot-long cable, originally of diameter 5 inches, is submerged in seawater. Because of corrosion, the
surface area of the cable diminishes at the rate of 1250 in 2 /year. Express the diameter d of the cable as a
function of time t (in years).

Homework Equations



C=π*d

Surface area=C*length (in inches)

The Attempt at a Solution



I understand (I hope correctly) that the form of the equation has to be

d=initial value - the rate of deminution , hence

d=5 - the rate of diminution

How do I construct the formula for the rate of diminution?

\frac{πd*l}{1250*t} ?
 
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The surface area of the cable is \pi d h and are given that h=300 and does not change so A= 300\pi d If we let \Delta d be the change in diameter in one year, then the change in surface are is \Delta A= 300\pi (d+ \Delta d)- 300\pi d= 300\pi\delta d= -625.
So \Delta d= \frac{6}{12\pi}.

Now, what will the diameter be after t years?
 
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HallsofIvy said:
The surface area of the cable is \pi d h and are given that h=300 and does not change so A= 300\pi d If we let \Delta d be the change in diameter in one year, then the change in surface are is \Delta A= 300\pi (d+ \Delta d)- 300\pi d= 300\pi\delta d= -625.
So \Delta d= \frac{6}{12\pi}.

Now, what will the diameter be after t years?

Before trying to answer your question, could you explain the formula: \Delta A= 300\pi (d+ \Delta d)- 300\pi d= 300\pi\delta d= -625

Namely: why do you add \Delta d? And what is this business with " - 300\pi d= 300\pi\delta d= -625 " ... how did you construct this? I guess that you use a (pseudo-) difference quotient and taking a limit so the delta becomes the small delta? But I have to remind you that it is for a reason that I wrote this problem in pre-calculus section.
 
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I still need a helping hand here ... can someone help?
 
Ok, so thus far I have discerned.

(1) We assume that only d changes because of the corrosion, therefore

(2) ΔA is due only to Δd.

(3) We know ΔA's numeric value, therefore it is useful to express it in terms of what is known e. g. ΔA=πΔdL (L is lenght). This is true since only d contributes to the changing A by (1).

(4) Since A=πdL we get

(5) A-ΔA=πdL-πΔdL (The reason why we have to do it is unclear to me, I can not give sufficient grounds for it, the only one is that it is the only possible way to achieve the result of getting d). But this is the same as:

(6) -ΔA=πdL+πΔdL-A This is

(7) -ΔA=πL(d+Δd)-A

(8) -ΔA=πL(d+Δd)-πLd

(9) -ΔA=πL((d+Δd)-d)

(10) Now I convert 300 ft into 3600 inches and get

(11) -\frac{1250}{3600π}=Δd

Why is this negative? Is the procedure correct?
 
Sorry there was a mistake in the problem statement. The part: "cable diminishes at the rate of 1250 in 2 /year" should be: "cable diminishes at the rate of 1250 in^2/year" (in^2 - added). That is one of the reasons of misunderstanding.
 

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