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The discussion focuses on the application of the Holstein-Primakoff transformation to derive a quadratic Hamiltonian for a quantum ferromagnet. The main question is whether the Hamiltonian should include terms like a² and (a-dagger)² multiplied by S, or if it should only retain the leading order terms in the expansion of 1/S. The consensus is that while a quadratic form in boson operators is achieved by ignoring lower-order terms, the resulting quadratic term is not of order S, leading to confusion about its relevance in the final expression.

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Doing a problem and I'm not entirely sure what the wording is referring to.

I won't get into details of the question unless people want to know (not really relevant) but I'm looking at the quantum ferromagnet and applying the Holstein-Primakoff transformation to find a new form of the Hamiltonian.

"Show that, to order S, the Hamiltonian is Quadratic in the boson annihilation and creation operators a and a-dagger"

basically I'm a bit unsure as to what they're asking - should the equation have an a^2 and (a-dagger)^2 term multiplied by S or does it mean something else?

Earlier on in the question it mentions we're looking at the limit of large S, and there is an expansion in 1/S which is multiplied by S so does the question mean - "If we ignore all terms in the expansion of order less than S, - show the Hamiltonian is quadratic in the boson operators"

I've done some working and if you ignore those constant terms in the expansion you do get a quadratic Hamiltonian in the boson operators, but the quadratic term is not of order S.
The quadratic term is a constant that comes from elsewhere in the equation so I'm not sure if I should count it (it would have been discarded if it were in the expansion so why keep it now).

Apologies if I'm unclear - I'm not entirely sure how to make it better though
 
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It means there is an expansion in 1/S and you keep just the leading term, whatever that may be.
 

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