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This thread centers around the daily Wordle game from the New York Times, where participants share their results, strategies, and experiences. The discussion includes personal anecdotes, strategies for guessing words, and reflections on the game's impact on cognitive skills.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants share their Wordle results, indicating varying levels of success, with scores ranging from 1 to 6 attempts.
  • Several users discuss their strategies for choosing starting words, with mentions of specific words like 'EARLY', 'PIOUS', and 'ADIEU'.
  • One participant notes the surprising number of five-letter words in English and reflects on the difficulty of the game.
  • There are personal anecdotes about family members' engagement with word games, including Wordle, Sudoku, and crosswords.
  • Some participants express a competitive spirit in playing Wordle with partners or family members.
  • Discussion includes a comparison of Wordle to other games, such as Mastermind, highlighting differences in gameplay mechanics.
  • Participants speculate on the timing of Wordle updates and how it may vary based on local time zones and device settings.
  • One user shares their experience playing Wordle in both English and Spanish, noting differences in guessing success rates.
  • There are corrections and clarifications regarding the validity of certain word guesses, such as 'FHLMN'.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of opinions and experiences regarding strategies and the nature of the game, with no clear consensus on the best approaches or the implications of playing Wordle on cognitive skills.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions involve assumptions about the game's rules and the validity of word guesses, which may not be universally agreed upon. There are also references to personal experiences that may not apply to all players.

Who May Find This Useful

This thread may be of interest to fans of word games, particularly those who enjoy sharing strategies and results, as well as those curious about the social dynamics of competitive gameplay.

  • #871
DrGreg said:
Wordle 531 5/6

##N=130\, , \,\mu=4.085\, , \,\sigma=0.993##
fresh_42 said:
How many characteristics, six or seven? Or five, because nobody has a one-guess-only.
Seven.
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The orange curve is a normal distribution with the same ##N, \mu, \sigma## as my discrete statistics in blue.

Although I've plotted a zero for one guess, it doesn't make any difference to the calculation. (I'm doing this via an Excel spreadsheet.)
 
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##N=168\, , \, \mu=4.298\, , \,\sigma =1.208##

Makes sense. My individual conditions (smaller active vocabulary as a non-native speaker, tendency to complicate things, solving it more in the style of Mastermind (from Parker IIRC) than wordle) explain the higher variance. I just asked whether we consider 7 as unsolved or disregard the unsolved which would make a significant difference.
 
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Wordle 531 3/6

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##N=127,~\mu=3.661,~\sigma=0.893##
 
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Which graphic tool do you use?
 
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fresh_42 said:
Which graphic tool do you use?
If you're asking me, I use Excel for Mac.
 
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##\{X_1,\ldots,X_7\}\, , \,N=169\, , \,\mu=4.290\, , \,\sigma =1.208 ##
 
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Wordle 533 4/6

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Wordle 534 5/6

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Wordle 534 6/6

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Aggravating that after being given an exceptional seed word ( 7 choices left! ), I'd take the worst route.
 
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I have made my first important step towards elevating myself from natural stupidity to artificial intelligence. My solution to puzzle 534, which I can now post, was identical to that of the Master who has unequivocally acknowledged that "We are as one."

Resistance is futile.

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Wordle 536 4/6

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  • #896
kuruman said:
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I have made my first important step towards elevating myself from natural stupidity to artificial intelligence. My solution to puzzle 534, which I can now post, was identical to that of the Master who has unequivocally acknowledged that "We are as one."

Resistance is futile.
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This is why I changed my seed word methodology. Wrichik posted in game 494 that he had played identically to that of Wordlebot. So I checked and discovered that I had also played identically. I thought that would be very boring if everyone eventually ended up with the same algorithm, and changed from a single word to a list of 10 random words. 3 weeks later I switched to a completely different set of words based on 2 rather than 1 criteria. I'm not sure whether or not I've entered a lucky streak or my list of words is better than Wordlebot's 'SLATE', but it appears that I'm doing statistically better since the change.

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spreadsheet generated (Mac 'Numbers')

Btw, can someone check my sigma and mu numbers. I'm not familiar at all with this bell curve stuff and earlier when I entered several peoples numbers, my σs and µs were not matching the author's numbers all that well. I'm simply curve fitting the equation at the top to yield the highest R² value.

ps. And yes, I've googled the bejeezits out of how to do this and am still befuddled.
 
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  • #898
OmCheeto said:
Btw, can someone check my sigma and mu numbers.
Here are my calculated results from your data. The numbers are not the results of fits; they are calculated from your data using the standard formulas. Not much different from yours. The solid line is a normal distribution based on these numbers.

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OmCheeto said:
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Btw, can someone check my sigma and mu numbers. [...]

You can calculate the \mu and \sigma discretely using the following formulas:

\mu = \frac{\sum x_n}{N}

\sigma = \sqrt{\frac{\sum \left( x_n - \mu \right)^2}{N-1}}

So let's do each individually.

Wordlebot:

\mu = \frac{9(3)+ 9(4)+ 3(5)}{21} = \frac{78}{21} \approx 3.714

\sigma = \sqrt{ \frac{9 \left( 3 - 78/21 \right)^2 + 9 \left(4 - 78/21 \right)^2 + 3 \left( 5 - 78/21 \right)^2 }{20}} \approx 0.7171

OmCheeto:

\mu = \frac{3(2) + 10(3) + 6(4) + 2(5)}{21} = 70/21 \approx 3.333

\sigma = \sqrt{\frac{ 3 \left(2 - 70/21 \right)^2 + 10 \left( 3 - 70/21 \right)^2 + 6 \left(4 - 70/21 \right)^2 + 2 \left( 5 - 70/21 \right)^2}{20}} \approx 0.8563

(All this assumes that I didn't mess up the arithmetic myself.)

The bell curve might not be the best probability density function for your guesses.

What you can say though, according to the Central Limit Theorem, if you average your guesses -- let's say you average them over k trials, the probability density of your averaged guesses will approach the shape of the bell curve, AND, \mu_k \approx \mu, and \sigma_k \approx \frac{\sigma}{\sqrt{k}}, and these approximations will become more precise for increasing k.

[Edit: Oops. Forgot to take a square-root calculation on OmCheeto's results. Correction made.]
 
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