Work done by a conservative force using change in potential energy

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The discussion centers on the relationship between work done by gravity and changes in potential energy, specifically using the equation W_g = -ΔU. Participants clarify that to find ΔU, two equations are necessary due to the presence of two unknowns: ΔU and W_g. It is established that point B is at a height of 0.8 m, and the only potential energy considered is gravitational. The conclusion emphasizes that W_g is always equal to -ΔU, allowing for the calculation of one variable if the other is known.

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Homework Statement
Here a block of mass 1kg is placed at a point A on a rough track. If slightly pushed towards the right, it stops at point B.
we need to calculate the work done by gravity between points A and B
Relevant Equations
##W_g = -\Delta U##
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we know ##W_g = -\Delta U##
but here to find ##\Delta U## we will need another equation
won't it be wrong to write $$-\Delta U = -\int_1^{0.8}mgdy$$
as this equation is derived from ##W_g = -\Delta U## and as we have 2 unknowns we will need two equations.

this is a rather easy problem but I am not able to understand why we can use ##\Delta U = mg\Delta h ## here as we do not know the work done by gravity.
Also since we are not given the value of ##\mu## I am not using the work energy theorem
 
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Hamiltonian299792458 said:
won't it be wrong to write $$-\Delta U = -\int_1^{0.8}mgdy$$
as this equation is derived from ##W_g = -\Delta U## and as we have 2 unknowns we will need two equations.
What are the two unknowns that you are referring to here?

Also, is point B at a height of 0.8 m? In the figure, B looks to be higher than 0.8 m.
 
TSny said:
What are the two unknowns that you are referring to here?

Also, is point B at a height of 0.8 m? In the figure, B looks to be higher than 0.8 m.
the two unknowns are ##\Delta U## and ##W_g##
point B is at a height 0.8m
 
##W_g## is always equal to ##- \Delta U##. So, if you calculate ##-\Delta U##, you have ##W_g##.
 
Hamiltonian299792458 said:
the two unknowns are ##\Delta U## and ##W_g##
point B is at a height 0.8m
The only potential energy here is that of gravity, so ##W_g=-\Delta U##.
 
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ok think I understood my mistake :doh:
 

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