Work done to bring the Earth to rest

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The discussion centers on the challenge of applying the work-energy theorem to halt the Earth's motion, specifically addressing the misconception of using centripetal force as a basis for this calculation. Participants clarify that while centripetal force directs the motion of the Earth, it does not perform work, and thus an "anticentripetal" force would also do no work. The conversation emphasizes that halting the Earth's circular motion requires a different approach, akin to calculating the work needed to stop a car, rather than simply countering the centripetal force.

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  • Understanding of the work-energy theorem
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  • Basic knowledge of gravitational forces
  • Concept of linear versus circular motion
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I know how to solve this using work energy theorem but how can one solve it starting from the fact that net force is centripetal? My attempt was "this means we only need an "anticentripetal" force of same magnitude, but centripetal force does 0 work hence new force also 0 work to counter it". This is wrong but I don't see why.
 
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The word centripetal is not a force but a direction. The force in this case is gravity.
 
An anticentripetal force applied to Earth would indeed do no work (at first), but it would also merely cause Earth to cease its acceleration, so its path becomes straight instead of curved. It wouldn't in any way bring Earth to rest as the problem statement asks.
 
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walking said:
starting from the fact that net force is centripetal
I don't understand. Who is saying you could start from that fact to answer the question?
A block sliding horizontally on a frictionless surface has no net force on it. How can you use that fact to find the work needed to halt it?
 
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walking said:
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I know how to solve this using work energy theorem but how can one solve it starting from the fact that net force is centripetal? My attempt was "this means we only need an "anticentripetal" force of same magnitude, but centripetal force does 0 work hence new force also 0 work to counter it". This is wrong but I don't see why.
As you have limited internet time, I would recommend to consider the trajectory of the planet like it was linear and its movement as of constant velocity.
That would not be different than a problem of calculating the work required to stop a car from certain speed.
 
Thanks everyone, I understand where I went wrong now - I was trying to stop an object moving in circular motion by stopping its circular motion, but this doesn't stop the object (by NI)!
 
It's all very well calculating a number like this, but how would it be possible to bring the Earth to rest? Unless we have some sort of mechanism in mind, it seems like a pointless calculation.
 

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