Work done to move a test charge

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work done to move a test charge in the electric field of a charged sphere. The problem involves concepts from electrostatics, specifically electrical potential energy and the forces between charges.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the work required using the formula for electrical potential energy and expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their answer and the nature of the charged sphere.
  • Some participants confirm the interpretation of electrical potential energy and provide their calculations, questioning the original poster's result.
  • Others express confusion regarding the calculations and seek clarification on the steps taken to arrive at different answers.
  • There are discussions about potential errors in calculations, particularly regarding the distance used in the formulas.
  • Additional questions arise about the relationship between charge and the number of electrons involved.

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The discussion is active with participants sharing their calculations and questioning each other's results. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of electrical potential energy, and there is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to the problem. Multiple interpretations of the calculations are being examined without a clear consensus on the correct answer.

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Participants note the ambiguity regarding the sign of the charge on the sphere and the implications of this on the calculations. There is also mention of potential errors in the original calculations, particularly concerning the use of distances in the formulas.

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A test charge of +1.0*10^-6 C is 40cm from a charged sphere of 3.2*10^-3

How much work is required to move it there from a point 1.0*10^2 m away from the sphere?

GIVEN:
q1 = +1.0*10^-6 C
q2 = 3.2*10^-3 C
r1 = 1.0*10^2 m
r2 = 0.40 m

Required:
W

Analysis:
Ee=(k*q1*q2)/r
delta Ee=E2-E1
W=delta Ee

Solution:

179.99712 J

Am I on the right track here? It just doesn't seam right to me for some reason. Also, since the charged sphere does not clearly specify that it is a positive or negative charge, should I assume it is positive?
 
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I am assuming by Ee, you mean Electrical potential energy, correct?

If this is the case then I believe you are on the right track. G01
 
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Can someone help me with this question. please. i have tried all i could but i am nowhere arround the right answer. :(
 
I don't know where the 179.99712 J came from. By my calculation k*q1*q2 is (9.0x10^9)*(1.0*10^-6)*(3.2*10^-3)=28.8 According to this Ee2 = 28.8/0.4=72 and Ee1 = 28.8/100 = 0.288
 
rojasharma said:
Can someone help me with this question. please. i have tried all i could but i am nowhere arround the right answer. :(
I got the answer as 179.75 J, which is pretty close to the OP's answer. You should post your attempt so we can check it for you.
 
I don't think the OP's answer is correct. Defennder do you mind sharing how you got that number?

Here's what I got

GIVEN:
q1 = +1.0*10^-6 C
q2 = 3.2*10^-3 C
r1 = 1.0*10^2 m
r2 = 0.40 m

E1 = (k*q1*q2) / r1
= (9.0*10^9*3.2*10^-3*1*10^-6)/(100m)
= 0.288 J

E2 = (k*q1*q2) / r2
= (9.0*10^9*3.2*10^-3*1*10^-6)/(0.4m)
= 72 J

W=deltaE= E2 - E1
= 72J - 0.288J
= 71.712J

Therefore 71.712J of work is required.

Can anyone comment on this please? I honestly don't get how they got a number close to 180J
 
jwj11 said:
Therefore 71.712J of work is required.

Can anyone comment on this please?
Looks good to me.
 
Well this thread has been inactive for some time. Looking back I think my error and probably that of the OP was to square 0.4m Otherwise I think the correct answer should be about -71.6J.
 
For this very same question above, how would I determine the electrons that were gained or lost from the test subject to create the charge?
 
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saiyaex said:
For this very same question above, how would I determine the electrons that were gained or lost from the test subject to create the charge?
Assuming the test object was originally neutral, every time you remove one electron the charge remaining will increase by one elementary charge (which is the magnitude of the charge on an electron). What's the charge on an electron?
 
  • #11
1.60217646 × 10-19
 
  • #12
do I multiply the test charge with 6.242 × 10^18 e using millikan's relationship?
 
  • #13
saiyaex said:
do I multiply the test charge with 6.242 × 10^18 e using millikan's relationship?
That works. Realize that multiplying by that number is the same as dividing by the electron charge.
 
  • #14
oh okay! simple enough. thanks a bunch.
 

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