Work Energy Theorem+Projectile motion

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The problem involves a 25.0 g mass on a 50.0° inclined plane, compressed against a spring, and subsequently released. The mass travels up the incline and then projects through the air, landing a specified distance from the base of the incline. The goal is to determine the spring constant.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the final speed on the incline and the initial speed of the projectile motion. There are attempts to calculate the work done by the spring, gravity, and friction, with varying interpretations of the equations used.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided calculations and expressed uncertainty about the work done by the spring and gravity. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct approach to finding the spring constant, with one participant noting a potential error in their earlier calculations.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the information they can share. There is a noted confusion regarding unit conversions and the application of angles in the work calculations.

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Homework Statement


A 25.0 g mass rests on a 50.0 inclined plane (uk = 0.200). It is pushed against a spring, compressing it 15.0 cm, and released. It moves up the plane and leaves the spring, traveling an additional 45.0 cm before leaving the edge of the plane (at a height of 80.0 cm above the ground). It then flies through the air, and is observed to land 270. cm from the base of the incline. What was the spring constant?


Homework Equations


Wnet = ΔK, mvf^2 - mvi^2
Xf = Xi + Vit + (1 / 2)at2

The Attempt at a Solution


Well, what I thought was the key to solving this problem was to realize the final speed on the incline is the initial speed of a projectile motion problem. So I found the work done by the spring, gravity,and friction. The net work I calculated was 0.1125k-13.2 (where k is the spring constant). I set this equation equal to the change in kinetic energy. I know the object had an initial velocity zero, and as mentioned before, the final velocity should be equal to the initial velocity of the projectile motion part of the problem. So I solved for the final velocity at the top of the incline by using the kinematics equation. I assumed mass was launched at the same angle as the incline, 50.0 degrees. After getting the final initial velocity from this projectile part of the problem, I set that equal to the final velocity of the mass at the top of the incline. It turned out to be 0.1125k-13.2=1/2(.0250kg)(21.5m/s) and found the spring constant to be 1192.96 N/m. I only received half credit for the problem and was hoping you guys could help me figure out where I went wrong. I checked my math a couple of times, so I think I'm making a conceptual mistake. Any help is appreciated!
 
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rwx1606 said:
Well, what I thought was the key to solving this problem was to realize the final speed on the incline is the initial speed of a projectile motion problem.
That's good.
So I found the work done by the spring, gravity,and friction. The net work I calculated was 0.1125k-13.2 (where k is the spring constant).
This is the work done on the object as the spring decompresses? Or for the entire slide up the incline? Show how you arrived at this number. (Give the equations and what you used for the variables.)
 
The equation I used for the work done BY the spring is 1/2k(Xi^2 - Xf^2). The initial position I put -.15m and the final position 0. So, 1/2k(-.15^2 - 0) is the work done by the spring, which i got .01125 k. For the work done by gravity I used W=Fs cos(theta). Which turned out to be (9.8)*(.025)*cos(90+50)*cos(180)*60. So the work done by gravity is -11.3 J. The cos(90+50) is the angle between the displacement and the force. AH! as I'm typing this I realized I put 60m as the distance of the strip and forgot to convert to cm. I'm going to recalculate. Can someone get an answer that I can confirm with?
 
I recalculated and got 35.6 N/m for the spring constant.
 

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