Work/force with a magnet problem

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The discussion focuses on calculating the work required to move two magnets based on their magnetic force, which varies inversely with the square of the distance. The initial force between the magnets at 4 cm apart is established as 4 Newtons, leading to the determination of the constant k as 2500. Participants clarify the correct conversion of units and the proper application of the integral for calculating work, emphasizing the importance of using consistent units. The final calculation for work results in approximately 0.155 joules. The conversation highlights the need for precision in both calculations and unit conversions in physics problems.
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The strength of magnetic force varies inversely with the square of the distance between the magnets. In other words,

Force = k/(distance^2)

Suppose that when two magnets are 4 cm apart, there is a force of 4 Newtons. Find the work required to move the magnets from a distance of 3 cm apart to a distance of 11 cm apart.

4N = k/(0.04^{2})m

4N = k/(0.0016m)

k = 2500

One thing that's thrown me for a loop though, is...

The distance between the magnets is 4 CM, or 0.04M.

So do I take the square of 4 CM to get 16 CM, or .16M.

Or do I square 0.04M to get 0.0016M, or .16CM.

I think it's the latter, but I'm not totally sure and I don't get second chances on this question.
 
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It is in fact the former, when raising a quantity to a power it's always a good idea to convert it to it's base units.

\left(4 cm\right)^2 = \left(4\cdot10^{-2}m\right)^2 = 16\cdot10^{-4}m^2 = 1.6\cdot10^{-3}m^2
 
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So k is indeed 2500, eh?

Alright, let me see...

As for finding work...

Work = Integral of ((2500/x^2) * (x)) from 3 to 11.

Does that sounds about right?
 
No, k\neq2500 you may want to check you arithmetic.

For the integral, I'm not sure why your multiplying by x here, perhaps it should be dx? Also take care of your units, your best using meters, i.e. integrate from 0.03 to 0.11.

Perhaps a minor point, but don't forget to square your units, i.e. m2.
 
Wait, does k = .0064?

I multiply by x because Work is force times distance. I calculate force in the first part. Then I calculate distance with the x. And yes, at the end I forgot to add a (with respect to dx).
 
So now I have...

Integral of (((.0064/x^2) * (x))dx from 0.03 to 0.11.

Gives 0.0083154 joules.
 
the7joker7 said:
Wait, does k = .0064?
Sounds much better :approve:
the7joker7 said:
I multiply by x because Work is force times distance. I calculate force in the first part. Then I calculate distance with the x. And yes, at the end I forgot to add a (with respect to dx).
Ahh, but the definition of rectilinear [1D] mechanical work is,

W = \int^{b}_{a}F(x)dx
 
Ah, okay. Thanks.

Now I have...

Integral of (((.0064/x^2))dx from .03 to .11

Gives .1551515152 joules.

Sound accurate?
 
Sounds good to me :approve:
 

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