Calculating Work Done by Car Engine

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work done by a car engine while traveling a specific distance on a level road, given the car's mass, speed, and friction force. The subject area includes concepts from mechanics, specifically work, force, and motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between force, displacement, and work, with initial attempts focusing on gravitational force rather than the relevant friction force. Questions arise regarding what force the engine must overcome to maintain speed.

Discussion Status

Some participants have identified the correct force to consider for calculating work, specifically the friction force, and have provided calculations based on this understanding. There is acknowledgment of the confusion surrounding terminology related to friction and its implications in the context of the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted concern about the terminology used in the problem, particularly the use of the term "friction," which some participants feel could lead to misunderstandings regarding the forces at play. Additionally, there are references to seeking further clarification on vector components, indicating a broader interest in related concepts.

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Homework Statement


A car (mass 900 kg) runs 12 km along a level road at a constant speed of 80 km / h. The friction force is 500N. Calculate the work done by the engine

Homework Equations


W= F x displacement[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


W= (900x 9.81) N x 12000m
W=10594800 J
But this is wrong .answer should be 6 x10^6 J
 
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Nanu Nana said:

Homework Statement


A car (mass 900 kg) runs 12 km along a level road at a constant speed of 80 km / h. The friction force is 500N. Calculate the work done by the engine

Homework Equations


W= F x displacement[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


W= (900x 9.81) N x 12000m
W=10594800 J
But this is wrong .answer should be 6 x10^6 J
(900 kg)(9.81 m/s2) is the forge due to gravity. It acts in a direction perpendicular to the displacement of the car, so that force does zero work.

What force must the engine overcome to maintain the car's sped?
 
oh friction force
so
Work = Friction force x (12000m)
W= 500 N x 12000m
W=6 x10^6 Joule
 
Nanu Nana said:
oh friction force
so
Work = Friction force x (12000m)
W= 500 N x 12000m
W=6 x10^6 Joule
Correct !
 
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SammyS said:
Correct !
Thank you very much . Where on forum should i ask if i want explanation about vectors components?
 
Nanu Nana said:
Thank you very much . Where on forum should i ask if i want explanation about vectors components?

Nanu Nana said:
Thank you very much . Where on forum should i ask if i want explanation about vectors components?

First, look in your textbook. If you cannot find a satisfactory answer there, go next to the internet; Google "vectors" or "vector components" or "vectors in physics", or similar entries. If you still have not found a satisfactory answer, THEN come to this Forum and ask a specific question (not a general question like 'can someone tell me about vector components?')
 
Nanu Nana said:
Thank you very much . Where on forum should i ask if i want explanation about vectors components?
If it's a from a homework problem or closely related to one, then this is the correct forum.

If it's more general, then either this forum or the General Physics section of the Physics section.
 
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Nanu Nana said:
A car (mass 900 kg) runs 12 km along a level road at a constant speed of 80 km / h. The friction force is 500N. Calculate the work done by the engine
Calling the resistance to a car's normal motion simply 'friction' is one of my pet hates. It's so confusing for students. What the question means is some combination internal friction (bearings etc.), rolling resistance and drag. The friction between the tyres and the road is precisely what allows the car to get anywhere. In the context of the problem, it would be acting in the forward direction.
 
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I agree, calling it friction is misleading but just for completeness... If we ignore internal/bearing friction then the forward pointing friction between tyre and road is equal to the rearward forces such as rolling resistance and drag.
 

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