Working out temperatures on an ideal brayton cycle.

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The discussion revolves around calculating temperatures in an ideal Brayton cycle, specifically focusing on determining the temperature at the end of the compressor given certain initial conditions and assumptions. The context includes theoretical analysis and application of thermodynamic principles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the initial problem of calculating the temperature at the end of the compressor using the isentropic relations and expresses uncertainty about the heat capacity ratio, γ.
  • Another participant identifies that the heat capacity ratio for air is a constant value of 1.4, which allows them to complete the calculation, resulting in a temperature of 650K at the end of the compressor.
  • A third participant agrees with the previous point, confirming that γ is indeed 1.4 for air, suggesting that the calculation becomes straightforward with this information.
  • A fourth participant shifts the discussion towards efficiency, work done, and losses in the Brayton cycle, indicating a need for equations to model a gas turbine based on specific requirements for an electrical generator.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is agreement among some participants regarding the value of the heat capacity ratio for air. However, the discussion about efficiency and other parameters remains unresolved, with no consensus on the equations or models needed for the gas turbine analysis.

Contextual Notes

The initial problem lacks explicit mention of the heat capacity ratio, which led to some confusion. The discussion also highlights the dependence on specific assumptions regarding the ideal Brayton cycle and the properties of air.

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Students and professionals interested in thermodynamics, particularly those studying or working with gas turbine cycles and related calculations.

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Homework Statement



An ideal Brayton cycle has a pressure ratio of 15 and can be analysed using air standard cycle assumptions. The gas temperature is 300K at the compressor inlet and 1500K at the turbine inlet.

The compressor and turbine can be considered to be isentropic.
For an isentropic process,[tex]pv^{\gamma}[/tex] = constant.

Work out the temperature at the end of the compressor.

Homework Equations



[tex]P_{1}[/tex] [tex]V_{1}^{\gamma}[/tex] = [tex]P_{2}[/tex][tex]V_{2}^ {\gamma}[/tex]

[tex]P_{1}[/tex] [tex]V_{1}[/tex] = [tex]R T_{1}[/tex]

[tex]P_{2}[/tex] [tex]V_{2}[/tex] = [tex]R T_{2}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



I've sketched the cycle on a t-s property diagram to illustrate the problem.


From the relevant equations, I have that:

[tex]T_{2} = T_{1}(\frac{P_{2}}{P_{1}})^{\gamma - 1/ \gamma}[/tex]

Which gives me, [tex]T_{2} = 300.15^{\gamma - 1/ \gamma}[/tex]

I have [tex]T_{1}[/tex] = 300 and the pressure ratio = 15 but I see no way to complete the equation as I don't know the heat capacity ratio, [tex]{\gamma}[/tex] or a way to work it out.
 

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I've now found that the heat capacity ratio is a constant and for this question is 1.4. I don't know why this wasn't mentioned anywhere in the question or my textbooks but a lot of googling came up with the answer in the end.

By using gamma=1.4, T2 comes out as 650K. :)
 
Yea I was reading this and thinking the exact thing...the heat capacity ratio is 1.4 for air...easy after that
 
hey do you guys know what the equations for efficiency, work done and losses are within the brayton cycle. I am trying to do a backwards model starting from the size of electrical generator I need and thus working towards what capacity gas turbine, pressure ratio and inlet temp I should have

Thanks
 

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