Would distinguishable particles experience bonding?

In summary, covalent bonding is due to exchange forces of attraction between electrons, which are indistinguishable particles. If electrons were distinguishable, there would still be bonds but they may not be classified as covalent. The Coulombic forces of attraction between distinguishable protons and electrons can also produce a bond. Covalent bonds are evidence of the indistinguishability of electrons.
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The book explains covalent bonding is due to exchange forces of attraction, which isn't a real force but the last term in [5.22]. This term arises due to electrons being indistinguishable particles.

If electrons were distinguishable, there would be no exchange forces. Then, would there still be covalent bonds? In other words, are there other factors that give rise to a covalent bond? Would the Coulombic forces of attraction between distinguishable protons and distinguishable electrons produce a covalent bond? Is it that exchange forces just make a covalent bond stronger or is it that without them, there will be no covalent bonds?

Are covalent bonds evidence that electrons are indistinguishable particles?

Reference: Intro to QM, David J Griffiths, p208

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If electrons were distinguishable, there would be no exchange forces. Then, would there still be covalent bonds?
There would still be bonds, though whether to call them covalent would be perhaps questionable.
 
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Would the Coulombic forces of attraction between distinguishable protons and distinguishable electrons produce a covalent bond?

It would produce a bond, yes. See, for example, the discussion in section 10-3 of this chapter of the Feynman Lectures on Physics:

http://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/III_10.html
He first shows the existence of a bound state for the hydrogen molecule without making any assumptions about the particles being indistinguishable, and then shows how the fact that electrons are indistinguishable fermions requires that the electrons in the hydrogen molecule must have opposite spins.
 
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1. What are distinguishable particles?

Distinguishable particles are particles that have unique properties or characteristics that set them apart from other particles. These properties can include size, shape, mass, charge, or energy levels.

2. What is bonding between particles?

Bonding between particles is the process by which particles are attracted to each other and form a stable connection. This can occur through various mechanisms, such as sharing or exchanging electrons, or through electrostatic interactions.

3. How do distinguishable particles experience bonding?

Distinguishable particles can experience bonding through a variety of mechanisms, depending on the properties of the particles and the nature of their interaction. For example, particles with opposite charges may experience bonding through electrostatic attraction, while particles with similar properties may bond through the sharing of electrons.

4. What factors affect the bonding between distinguishable particles?

The bonding between distinguishable particles can be affected by several factors, including the properties of the particles (such as charge, size, and shape), the distance between the particles, and the presence of other particles or molecules in the surrounding environment.

5. Can distinguishable particles form different types of bonds?

Yes, distinguishable particles can form different types of bonds depending on their properties and the nature of their interaction. Some common types of bonds include ionic bonds, covalent bonds, and metallic bonds. The type of bond formed between particles will depend on the specific properties and characteristics of the particles involved.

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