Would this be sufficient as a proof?

  • Thread starter Thread starter sooyong94
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Proof
Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the mathematical proof involving Vieta's formula and the quadratic discriminant for the equation \( ax^{2}+2mbx+nc=0 \). Participants emphasize the importance of correctly ordering the solution attachments to align with the posed questions. A key suggestion is to simplify the solution approach by starting with factorization rather than assuming the existence of real roots. The need for clarity in logical progression is highlighted, particularly in demonstrating that the equation has real roots based on the condition \( b^{2}-ac \geq 0 \).

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Vieta's formulas
  • Knowledge of quadratic equations and their discriminants
  • Familiarity with factorization techniques in algebra
  • Ability to construct logical mathematical proofs
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the application of Vieta's formulas in polynomial equations
  • Learn about the quadratic discriminant and its implications for real roots
  • Explore factorization methods for quadratic equations
  • Review logical structures in mathematical proofs to enhance clarity
USEFUL FOR

Students studying algebra, mathematics educators, and anyone involved in solving or teaching quadratic equations and proofs.

sooyong94
Messages
173
Reaction score
2

Homework Statement


Capture.png


2. Homework Equations
Vieta's formula, quadratic discriminant

3. The Attempt at a Solution
test.png


test3.png


test4.png


teste.png
 
Physics news on Phys.org
suggestion for the first part: since ##\alpha,\beta## are solutions your equation as also a second form ##(x-\alpha)(x-\beta)=0## so you can expand this and proceed comparing with ##ax^{2}+2bx+c=0## ...
for the second part you must to look to the ##\Delta## of the equation ##ax^{2}+2mbx+nc=0## and to prove that is ##\geq 0## (observe that ##b^{2}-ac\geq 0## by assumption) ...

Your attempt at a solution is very long, I hope with my suggestions you will able to simplify ...
 
I was a bit confused because the order of the solution attachments does not match the order of the questions. The last attachment appears to address the first question. As Ssnow writes, it is simpler to start with factorisation.

The first attached solution seems unrelated to the posted questions.

The second attached solution does seem to be related to the second posted question, but exactly how is unclear.

The third attached solution does address the second question, but the logic is backwards. You are asked to show that the equation has real roots, so you should not start with "if it has real roots". You could start with "it will only have real roots if..."
 

Similar threads

Replies
16
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
7K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
2K