Write an equation for the gravitational force between two objects

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The discussion revolves around writing equations for gravitational force between two objects, exploring the effects of changing distances and masses on that force, and understanding the force-to-mass ratio on a planet. The subject area includes gravitational physics and mathematical relationships in force calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the gravitational force equation and its application to various scenarios, including changes in distance and mass. Some express uncertainty about how to approach the second and third questions, while others suggest manipulating the gravitational force equation to explore relationships.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering hints and guidance to one another. There is a focus on understanding how changes in variables affect gravitational force, and some have reached tentative conclusions about specific parts of the problem.

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One participant notes missing class time as a factor in their understanding, which may influence their ability to engage fully with the problem. The discussion includes various interpretations of the questions posed in the homework statement.

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Homework Statement



1. Write an equation for the gravitational force between two objects that are separated by a distance r

2. Write an equation for the force to mass ratio (acceleration) on a planet with mass M and radius R.

3. What happens to the gravitational force between two objects if the masses remain constant while the distance between the two masses decreases to .5 the original separation distance? (circle your answer)

a. 1/2 as great as the original force.
b. 1/4 as great as the original force/
c. 2.5 times as great
d. 4 times as great
e. 25 times as great

4. The force between two planets is 2 X 107 N. What will be the force if the mass of one of the planets is doubled, the mass of the other planet is tripled and the distance between the planets is reduced to 3/4 the original value?


Homework Equations



Fg= Gm1m2/ r^2

The Attempt at a Solution

 
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stargirl17 said:

The Attempt at a Solution


Before we can help, you need to post some attempt.


stargirl17 said:

Homework Equations



Fg= Gm1m2/ r^2

Since you have this, I think you can answer the first two parts and make an attempt at the 3rd part.
 
i know the first one is the same as the equation. But i don't know how to do the others because i was on a field trip friday when the class went over this. could i have some hints or help?
 
stargirl17 said:
i know the first one is the same as the equation. But i don't know how to do the others because i was on a field trip friday when the class went over this. could i have some hints or help?

For the third one, try replacing 'r' in the equation by 'r/2' and see how that relations to original force F(=GMm/r2)
 
oh so it would be b) 1/4?
 
stargirl17 said:
oh so it would be b) 1/4?

[tex]F'=\frac{GMm}{(\frac{r}{2})^2}[/tex]

if you are dividing by (r/2)2, what does it become?
 
4 times as great
 
stargirl17 said:
4 times as great

Good, now just apply a similar method for number 4
 
awesome thank you :)
can i have a hint about 2?
 
  • #10
stargirl17 said:
awesome thank you :)
can i have a hint about 2?

[tex]F=\frac{GMm}{r^2}[/tex]


they want the force(F) to mass of a body ratio. Mass of the planet is M. Mass of the body is m.
 
  • #11
isn't that the answer for 1?
 
  • #12
stargirl17 said:
isn't that the answer for 1?

That's why you need to divide both sides by an 'm' :wink:
 
  • #13
oh ok cool. do u think i should just leave the answer as Fg/m= (Gm1m2/ r^2)/m
 
  • #14
a = fg/m = GM/(r^2) should be fine.

Edit: let me clarify this,

a = (fg) / (m) = (GM)/(r^2)
 
  • #15
m/r2 : 1/r2
 

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