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The problem involves rewriting polynomials in terms of a new variable, specifically expressing them as polynomials of (x-3). The subject area pertains to algebra and polynomial manipulation.

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  • Participants discuss the interpretation of the problem, with some suggesting a substitution of variables (y = x-3) to simplify the polynomials. Others express uncertainty about the complexity of the task and seek guidance on the approach.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations and methods to tackle the problem. Some participants have shared their thoughts on how to approach the polynomial transformation, while others have provided tips and examples to clarify the process.

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Participants note potential confusion arising from using the same variable name for different meanings and express a desire for clarity in the algebraic manipulations involved.

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The problem statement

Write the following polynomials in x as polynomials of (x-3)

Solution should be somewhat analytical in its approach.
How would you do something like this? What does it mean?

You can use any example to explain it, my specific homework question isn't necessary unless you want to see it.
eg: a) x^4
b) x^2-x-4

The attempt at a solution
i am guessing it is not as simple as
x = x - 3 but some guidance would be great.
 
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As I see it, it means you have to represent the polynomial in the form of another variable y = x-3. For example, f(x) = x + 10 would be changed to f(y) = y+13, where y = x-3.

Though this sounds too simple, somehow.
 
Yes this is what i thought also, maybe I just lucked out with a really easy question ;)
 
Hi JoshMaths! :smile:

(try using the X2 button just above the Reply box :wink:)

Show us your answer for x2 - x - 4, just to be on the safe side. :wink:
 
Got it, thanks for the tip ;)

And fwi i am doing college level maths haha so algebriac manipulations aren't the pressing issue but to make you happy...

"x2 - 7x + 8"
 
hmm …

that's the trouble with using the same letter to mean two different things :redface:
JoshMaths said:
Write the following polynomials in x as polynomials of (x-3)

i am guessing it is not as simple as
x = x - 3 but some guidance would be great.

x' = x - 3, and you need to convert from x to x'

(then you can rename it "x")
 
I would use the formula (which you can find explained early on - p.8 - in the book of Burnside and Panton* which I have mentioned earlier) which they state essentially as

f(x + h) = f(x) + f ' (x) h + f ''(x) h2/1.2. + f '''(x) h3/1.2.3 +... + f(n)hn/n!

You need to turn this around, you are trying to express in terms of a new variable x' = (x - 3). You have f(x); that equals f(x' + 3)
Develop that according to the above formula.

*(I commented this book in a thread called 'refer me to the best book in algebra' and I have just seen that it is available free online.)

This could be called "somewhat analytical in its approach" inasmuch as it uses derivatives. Although if you look harder you can see that you could redefine derivatives for polynomials in a finitistic purely algebraic way not involving limit concepts; they would be just the same formulae as the familiar ones. I think that may be what they have in mind by that phrase. If this is obscure not to worry - just do the calculation. :smile:
 
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