√x-3 + √x = 3 more simple algebra

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The problem involves solving the equation √x-3 + √x = 3, which is situated within the context of algebraic manipulation and simplification. Participants are exploring the steps required to expand and simplify expressions involving square roots.

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  • Participants discuss the expansion of the expression (√x-3 + √x)(√x-3 + √x) and question the steps leading to the equation 2x - 3 + 2√x²-3x = 9. There is confusion regarding the distribution process and the simplification of terms.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants expressing varying levels of understanding. Some have provided guidance on the expansion process, while others are still grappling with the concepts involved. There is no explicit consensus, but attempts to clarify the distribution method are present.

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[SOLVED] √x-3 + √x = 3 more simple algebra

Homework Statement



√x-3 + √x = 3

( √x-3 + √x ) ( √x-3 + √x ) = 9


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I have the answer in my book as x=4 , but I don't understand how they got there.

these are the next two steps which I don't understand, everything after I get so I didn't type it here.

(x-3) + 2√x-3 √x + x = 9

2x - 3 + 2√x²-3x = 9 * the -3x is in the square root
 
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(x-3) + 2√x-3 √x + x = 9

you got this by expanding out ( √x-3 + √x ) ( √x-3 + √x )

if you take everything else except the sq.root on the other side(with the 9) you'll get
[itex]\sqrt{x^2-3x}=(6-x)[/itex] then just square both sides and expand again
 
man I don't know what you mean. how do you expand out?
 
Just as in any (a + b)(a + b), you distribute appropriately.

(a + b)(a + b) = (a + b)(a) + (a + b)(b)

= (a)(a) + (b)(a) + (a)(b) + (b)(b).

That's all "expand" means.
 
varygoode said:
Just as in any (a + b)(a + b), you distribute appropriately.

(a + b)(a + b) = (a + b)(a) + (a + b)(b)

= (a)(a) + (b)(a) + (a)(b) + (b)(b).

That's all "expand" means.



so everytime I have (a + b)(a + b) this is all I have to do is put it in the form you wrote up there? is there anything else I need to know about this?

what is this called anyway? a lot of questions i know, sorry...it's just I want to understand it, rather than just memorizing how to do it.
 
It's just simple distribution. No special name (that I can think of off the top of my head).

As long as you know what it means to distribute, i.e.:

a(b + c) = ab + ac.
 
it still doesn't add up.

how does (√x-3 + √x) (√x-3 + √x) = 9

distributed into form (a)(a) + (b)(a) + (a)(b) + (b)(b)

= (x-3) + 2√x-3 √x + x = 9 ?


wouldn't it be... (√x-3)(√x-3) + (√x)(√x-3) + (√x-3)(√x) + (√x)(√x) ?
 
Your last expression isn't completely simplified.

[tex](\sqrt{x-3})(\sqrt{x-3}) = x-3[/tex]

[tex](\sqrt{x})(\sqrt{x}) = x[/tex]

And, finally, there are two of the term:

[tex](\sqrt{x-3})(\sqrt{x})[/tex]

(which is the same as:)

[tex](\sqrt{x})(\sqrt{x-3})[/tex]

which need combining.

That should resolve that particular issue.
 
dude...I'm even more lost now. I hate to admit that. I use to be one of the top math students, now I'm struggling with grade 11 crap.
 
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i hate to keep bothering ya, but I read your last post no less than 20x, and I still don't understand how it works.
 
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wait...nm...i got it now...

thnkx a lot brother...owe u 1
 
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Oh, great! Not a problem.

I had started writing a more detailed and fancy response for you, but now I don't need to. Thanks!

Post again if you have any more questions!

P.S.: Instead of triple-posting, try editing your first post next time. :)
 

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