X = ((384x/(y+384))*y+384(384x/(y+384)))/384

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The discussion revolves around a complex equation involving variables x and y, specifically focusing on the expression x = ((384x/(y+384))*y+384(384x/(y+384)))/384 and its various forms. Participants are attempting to understand how to isolate y in terms of x, exploring the implications of the equation's structure and potential multiple solutions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are questioning whether all the provided equations yield the same solution for y and exploring the implications of identities like 0=0. Some express confusion about how to derive y without prior knowledge of its value, while others suggest that any value of y (except -384) could satisfy the equation.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants have provided insights into the nature of the equations, noting that the first expression simplifies to an identity, while others are attempting to clarify the relationships between x and y. There is no explicit consensus, but several lines of reasoning are being developed.

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Participants are grappling with the challenge of solving for y given that the equations seem to allow for multiple values of y for a single x, and there are constraints such as the undefined nature of the equation at y=-384. The complexity of the equations and the potential for multiple solutions are central to the discussion.

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Solved: x=((384x/(y+384))*y+384(384x/(y+384)))/384

I solved for y1 and y2. I can't edit the title of the original post but this is solved.

 
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SammyS said:
@ NascentOxygen,

Do you mean like this?
Precisely. Would be invaluable for checking results. Thanks.
 
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johnnyamerica said:
x-x=0, you say? I wasn't aware.

Let's start with something simpler. Like x=3y-4. Easy to solve. Try to feed x-3y+4 to Wolfram and see if it will equal zero. Do you see there is some important difference between x = ((384x/(y+384))*y+384(384x/(y+384)))/384 and x=3y-4? One is tautology, other is not.

Any value of x or y can result in a different value of x or y. I can find any x if I know y, but how can I find any y without already knowing y?

Using your equation you can't find y, because such a unique solution doesn't exist.

x-x=y-y is another equation similar to yours - it can't be solved for exactly the same reasons you can't solve your equation. No matter what you put as x, any y will still make it correct. Yours is just more convoluted.
 

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