XY plane as the interface between two media

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The problem involves the xy-plane as an interface between two media with different magnetic permeabilities. The original poster is tasked with finding the magnetic field intensity H1 and magnetic flux density B1, given the conditions in each medium and the current at the interface.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply relevant equations to derive H1 and B1 from the given information about the media and the interface current. Some participants question the correctness of the equations used and the steps taken to derive H2.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's reasoning, providing feedback on the application of equations and suggesting alternative approaches. There is a focus on clarifying the use of the magnetization term and the correct application of boundary conditions for magnetic fields.

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Participants note the importance of correctly interpreting the interface conditions and the role of the magnetization term in the equations. There is an acknowledgment of the need for clarity in the steps taken to derive the magnetic field values.

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Homework Statement


The xy-plane serves as the interface between two different media. Medium 1 (z < 0) is filled with a material whose µr=6, and medium 2 (z > 0) is filled with a material whose µr=4. If the interface carries a current (1/µ0)ˆy (y- hat) mA/m, and B2 = 5ˆx (x-hat) + 8ˆz (z-hat) mWb/m2 , find H1 and B1.

Homework Equations



H = 1/μ0 B - M.
Habove - Hbelow = Kf x ^n (n-hat)[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution



I know I am not doing this right because it seems to simple and my linear algebra isn't the best (I forgot some of the concepts) but this is what made sense to me:

H2 = 1/(μ04) [5 ^x + 8 ^z]

Sub that into the second equation.

so

1/(μ04) [5 ^x + 8 ^z] - H1 = 1 ^y
=>
1/(μ04) [5 ^x + 8 ^z] - 1/(μ06)B2 = 1 ^y

I change it into vector coordinates

1/μ0 (5/4, 0, 8/4) - 1/μ0 (x/6, -6/6, z/6) = 1 ^y

Then solve for x and z.

I get H1 = 1/(μ0) (7.5/6 ^x - 1 ^y + 12/6 ^z)
and B1 = 7.5 ^x - ^y + 12^zAm I going about this right or am I all the way in Mars right now?
 
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whatisgoingon said:

Homework Equations



H = 1/μ0 B - M.
Habove - Hbelow = Kf x ^n (n-hat)[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


...
H2 = 1/(μ04) [5 ^x + 8 ^z]
Your result for H2 is correct, but it isn't clear how you got it. It does not follow immediately from either of your equations in the "Relevant equations" section.

Sub that into the second equation.

so

1/(μ04) [5 ^x + 8 ^z] - H1 = 1 ^y
This isn't right. Your relevant equation ##\mathbf H_{\rm above} - \mathbf H_{\rm below} = \mathbf K_f \times \hat {\mathbf n}## is not correct in general. (Even if it were correct, the right hand side does not have a direction in the ##\hat y## direction.)

The correct equation is generally written as shown here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter...terface_conditions_for_magnetic_field_vectors
See the second equation.
 
Equation 1 of my "Relevant Equations" is how I got H2. I just inserted B2 into the equation.

And thank you! That link makes a lot of sense.

I was wondering if I was going in the right direction in terms of subtracting the vectors to get zero. Because from the link you posted, I need to find B1 and then subtract it from B2 to get zero? Because from there I can find H2. Am going about this the right way?
 
whatisgoingon said:
Equation 1 of my "Relevant Equations" is how I got H2. I just inserted B2 into the equation.
Your equation 1 has the magnetization M. So, it is not immediately obvious how you dealt with this term. After substituting B2 into the equation, what did you do with M?

I was wondering if I was going in the right direction in terms of subtracting the vectors to get zero. Because from the link you posted, I need to find B1 and then subtract it from B2 to get zero? Because from there I can find H2. Am going about this the right way?
I would need to see the details of your attempt. The equation to use is ##\hat {\mathbf n} \times \left( \mathbf H_2 - \mathbf H_1\right) = \mathbf K##, where ##\hat {\mathbf n}## is the unit normal vector pointing from medium 1 to medium 2. Consider separately the x and y components of this equation.
 

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