Y= l sin x l < absolute value of sinx

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The discussion revolves around understanding the graph of the function y = |sin x|, particularly in relation to the properties of absolute values and their effect on the sine function. Participants are exploring the implications of the absolute value on the graph and its behavior across different intervals of x.

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  • Participants attempt to clarify the behavior of the function y = |sin x|, questioning why all y-values are above the x-axis and how the absolute value affects the graph. There is discussion about piecewise definitions and specific input values, such as 3π/2, leading to confusion about negative outputs.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the nature of absolute values and their graphical representation. Some participants express confusion regarding the piecewise function and the reflection of values across the x-axis, while others clarify these points, indicating a productive exchange of ideas.

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Participants are grappling with the definitions and implications of absolute values in the context of the sine function, particularly in relation to specific intervals where sine values are negative.

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Homework Statement


y= l sin x l < absolute value of sinx



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The Attempt at a Solution


y= l sin x l= sinx, if x>0
-sinx, if x< 0
0, if x=0
I get that part, but when i draw the graph I don't get it
 
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Cudi1 said:

Homework Statement


y= l sin x l < absolute value of sinx



Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


y= l sin x l= sinx, if x>0
-sinx, if x< 0
0, if x=0
I get that part, but when i draw the graph I don't get it
What about the graph don't you get?
 
why are all y values above the x axis?
 
Because it's an absolute value. You say that y = | sin x |, so the y-values can only be 0 or positive. If you take the graph of f(x) = sin x (without the absolute value), reflect all of the graph that is below the x-axis, across the x-axis, you will get the graph of y = | sin x |.
 
That's what the absolute value does.

BTW, what you have here is incorrect -
Cudi1 said:
y= l sin x l= sinx, if x>0
-sinx, if x< 0
0, if x=0
It should be
|sin x| = sin x, if sin x >= 0
-sin x, if sin x < 0
 
ye, i noticed so all y values must be positive? but if i make it into a piecewise function then for sinx, if sinx >=0 then if i input 3pi/2 i would get a negative y value (-1)
 
Actually, the y values for y = |sin x| are nonnegative.

It's not clear to me what you're asking. |sin (3pi/2)| = |-1| = 1.
 
y=sinx if sinx>=0 so if i input a value of 3pi/2, wouldn't that give me a negative number?
 
Yes, but so what? You are working with y = |sin x|.

The graph of y = |sin x| will agree exactly with the graph of y = sin x wherever sin x is >= 0. For the intervals where y = sin x < 0, the absolute value will flip them across the x-axis.
 
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k got it, so when x<0 it gets reflected across the x axis, for the other values since we are dealing with absolute value, an aboslute value of a negative is positive. Thanks, only reason I got confused is when you put it in from sinx, if sinx>=0 and when sinx<0 thanks
 
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Cudi1 said:
k got it, so when x<0 it gets reflected across the x axis
Not necessarily. The graph is reflected across the x-axis when sin(x) < 0, which happens when -pi < x < 0, or when pi < x < 2pi, and a bunch of other intervals.
Cudi1 said:
, for the other values since we are dealing with absolute value, an aboslute value of a negative is positive. Thanks, only reason I got confused is when you put it in from sinx, if sinx>=0 and when sinx<0 thanks
That's how you need to look at it. It's not just when x >= 0 or x < 0.
 

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