Year 12: Cambridge Physics Problem (Rate of increase of ice thickness)

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem related to the freezing of a pond and the rate of increase of ice thickness. The original poster expresses difficulty with concepts in heat and kinetic theory, specifically regarding thermal conductivity and its application in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between heat transfer and the formation of ice, with some suggesting the use of the 1D heat conduction formula. The original poster questions their understanding of thermal conductivity and seeks guidance on how to approach the problem.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the heat transfer process through the ice layer and how it relates to the temperature gradient. However, there is no clear consensus on the approach to take, and the original poster continues to seek additional pointers and clarification.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes a lack of familiarity with thermal conductivity as per their syllabus, which may be impacting their ability to engage with the problem effectively.

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Guys I'm weak in heat and kinetic theory, so I'm going to need extra guide and pointers from you guys to solve this and the coming questions. Thank you.

Question:
A pond of water at 0 degrees Celsius is freezing. The thickness of the ice layer is h and the top surface of the ice remains at a temperature θ (θ being < 0°C).

(i) Derive an equation for the rate of increase of h in terms of θ, l, h, λ, and ρ, where l is the specific latent heat of fusion, λ is the thermal conductivity and ρ is the density of ice.

(ii) Discuss how the rate of formation of ice would be affected if the temperature of the water in the pond was 0°C at the water-ice interface but increased with depth to 4°C at the bottom of the pond.

[Specific latent heat of fusion of ice, l = 3.3E5 J/kg; thermal conductivity of ice, λ = 2.3 W /mK; density of ice, ρ = 920 kg/m^3]

Attempt:
None? I don't think I learned thermal conductivity in CIE A Level (I couldn't find it in the syllabus list either), and I'm currently googling for more info on it. Pointers anyone? Thank you!
 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_conductionFor the formation of layer of thickness dh calculate how much heat will be transferred from pond to surounding .then use 1D heat conduction formula to relate it to the given parameters.
 
pcm said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_conductionFor the formation of layer of thickness dh calculate how much heat will be transferred from pond to surounding .then use 1D heat conduction formula to relate it to the given parameters.

Attempt:
How much heat will be transferred to surroundings from pond?

heat loss by water in pond = formation of ice.

\rho A h.l, where A is the surface area of the pond.

I haven't even related the thermal conductivity to the equation! I honestly don't know what to do over here. Can anyone please provide a partial guide or additional pointers for me? Thank you...
 
Heat is transferred from the pond to the surroundings through the ice layer, by heat conduction.

The rate of heat transferred through unit cross section of the ice layer is proportional to the temperature gradient inside the layer,

ΔQ/Δt=λΔT/Δx.

We can take that the surface of the ice layer is at the same temperature as the ambient, and the temperature changes linearly through the layer. If θa is the temperature of the ambient, θw is the temperature of the water in the pond, and h is the thickness of the ice

ΔT/Δx=(θa-θw)/h,

so the rate of heat loss by the water through the ice layer of area A is dQ/dt=λA(θa-θw)/h. The heat lost by the water will cause freezing some amount and increasing the thickness of the ice layer.

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