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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the integral \(\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} e^{-\alpha x^2} \tanh\left(x - \beta\right) dx\) with participants exploring various methods, including series expansions and calculus of residues. The conversation also touches on a related integral involving the error function, indicating a preference for this approach among some participants.

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  • One participant suggests splitting the integral into two parts and using geometric series to handle the integrand, but later expresses doubt about the effectiveness of this method.
  • Another participant proposes considering the integral involving the error function instead, suggesting it is conceptually similar and potentially easier to evaluate.
  • A different approach involving calculus of residues is introduced, noting the presence of poles and the challenge of dealing with arcs at infinity.
  • A participant presents a derived expression for the integral involving the error function, calculating its derivative and expressing confidence in the correctness of their approach.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the best method for evaluating the original integral. Multiple competing views and methods are presented, with some participants expressing uncertainty about their proposed solutions.

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Participants acknowledge the complexity of the integral and the potential for different approaches to yield varying results. There are indications of missing assumptions and unresolved steps in the mathematical reasoning presented.

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Hi,

I'm trying to calculate this integral :

[tex]\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} e^{-\alpha x^2} tanh\left(x - \beta\right) dx[/tex]

[tex]\alpha,\beta[/tex] being independent of x.

Would somebody know how to do that ?

Thanks :)
 
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I don't know how to avoid the use of series, but this would be something with them:

Split the integral into two integrals, one over [tex]]-\infty,\beta][/tex], and one over [tex][\beta,\infty[[/tex]. Then substitute the geometric series

[tex] \frac{1}{e^{x-\beta} + e^{-(x-\beta)}} = \frac{1}{e^{-(x-\beta)}}\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} (-1)^n e^{2n(x-\beta)},\quad\quad\quad x<\beta[/tex]

and

[tex] \frac{1}{e^{x-\beta} + e^{-(x-\beta)}} = \frac{1}{e^{x-\beta}}\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} (-1)^n e^{-2n(x-\beta)},\quad\quad\quad x>\beta.[/tex]

If I looked this right, now you should get such series for the integrand, that you know how to integrate each term in the series. Of course there's lot of work to be carried out, and in the end the result is in a form of series, so this is not the most desirable way to get the result... I'll be waiting eagerly to see if somebody has better ideas.

edit: oh no. I made one mistake. It is simple to integrate symmetric Gaussian peak over a domain [tex]]-\infty, 0][/tex] or [tex][0,\infty[[/tex], but actually splitting the integral of the original problem at [tex]\beta[/tex] results is something more difficult. I don't think my idea is working. But it could work if [tex]\beta=0[/tex].

edit edit: On the other hand, if [tex]\beta=0[/tex], then it is clear that the integral is zero, so actually I didn't help in anything :biggrin:
 
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Hi,

thanks for trying :)

I think it would be helpful to rather consider this integral :

[tex]\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} e^{-\alpha x^2}Erf\left(x - \beta\right)[/tex]

Which is for the physicist that I am quite the same object..Edit :

Well in fact the real object I would like to evaluate is :

[tex]I\left(x\right) = \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} e^{-\alpha v^2}Erf\left(v - A\left(x\right)\right) dv[/tex]

Edit bis :

I could add that :

[tex]A\left(x\right) = Ln\left(cosh\left(x\right)\right)[/tex] But I think it doesn't matter what A(x) is to evaluate the integral..
 
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Another strategy would be to try to use calculus of residues. It should be simple to integrate

[tex] \int\limits_{\gamma} e^{-\alpha z^2} \textrm{tanh}(z-\beta) dz[/tex]

over any closed path, using the poles

[tex] \frac{1}{e^{z-\beta} + e^{-(z-\beta)}} \;=\; \frac{(-1)^n}{2}\frac{1}{z - (\beta + (\frac{1}{2} + n)\pi i)} \;+\; O\big(z - (\beta + (\frac{1}{2} + n)\pi i)\big),<br /> \quad\quad\quad n\in\mathbb{Z}[/tex]

This alone doesn't yet solve the problem though, because one has to find out a way to deal with the arcs at infinity.
 
All right, here is a solution to my problem. As I said, to me [tex]Erf(x)[/tex] has the same behavior as [tex]tanh(x)[/tex], and it is indeed easier to integrate. Tell me if you agree :

[tex]I\left(A(x)\right) = \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} e^{-\alpha v^2} Erf\left(v+A\left(x\right)\right)dv[/tex]
is now the integral I'm looking to calculate.

First I can calculate the derivative acording to [tex]A(x)[/tex] :

[tex]I'\left(A(x)\right) =\frac{2}{\sqrt{\pi}} \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} e^{-\alpha v^2}\frac{d}{dA}\left(\int_0^{v+A} e^{-t^2}dt\right) dv[/tex]

[tex]I'\left(A(x)\right)=\frac{2}{\sqrt{\pi}} \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} e^{-\alpha v^2}e^{-\left(v+A\right)} dv[/tex]

this leads to :

[tex]I'\left(A(x)\right)= \frac{2e^{-\frac{\alpha}{\alpha+1}A(x)^2}}{\sqrt{\alpha+1}}[/tex]Now integrating from 0 to A(x) gives :

[tex]I\left(A(x)\right) = \sqrt{\frac{\pi}{\alpha}}Erf\left(\frac{a}{a+1}A\left(x\right)\right)[/tex]do you think that's correct ?
 
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