Z-Component of Angular Momentum.

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The discussion revolves around the z-component of angular momentum for a particle described by a specific wave function involving spherical harmonics. The problem includes determining possible measurement outcomes, their probabilities, and the expectation value of the angular momentum operator.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the representation of the wave function in terms of spherical harmonics and discuss the possible values for the magnetic quantum number, ml, and their corresponding probabilities. Questions arise regarding the proper evaluation of the expectation value of Lz and the necessity of including complex conjugates in the integral.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the evaluation of the expectation value and the use of probabilities to simplify calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of the normalization of the wave function and the implications of the integration process.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential issues with normalization and the integration limits, as well as the requirement for proper handling of the wave function's complex components.

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Homework Statement



A particle is in a state described by the wave function:

\Psi = \frac{1}{\sqrt{4}}(e^{i\phi} sin \theta + cos \theta) g(r),

where

\int\limits_0^\infty dr r^{2} |g(r)|^{2} = 1

and \phi and \theta are the azimuth and polar angle, respectively.

OBS: The first spherical harmonics are:

Y_{0,0} = \frac{1}{sqrt{4 \pi}, Y_{1,0} = \frac{sqrt{3}}{sqrt{4 \pi} cos \theta and Y_{1,\pm1} = \mp \frac{sqrt{3}}{sqrt{8 \pi}} e^{\pm i \phi} sin \theta

a - What are the possibles results of a measurement of the z-componet L_{z} of the angular momentum of the particle in this state?
b - What is the probability of obtaining each of the possible results of part (a)?
c - What is the expectation value of L_{z}?

Homework Equations




L_{z} = -i\hbar \frac{\partial}{\partial \phi}

L_{z} \Psi = m_{l} \hbar \Psi


The Attempt at a Solution



I start by writing the wavefunction in terms of the spherical harmonics.

\Psi = (- \frac{\sqrt{2}{\sqrt{3}}} Y_{1,1} + \frac{1}{sqrt{3} Y_{1,0}) g(r)

So, the possibles values for m_{l} are 0 and 1; and l_{z} = 0\hbar and l_{z} = 1 \hbar

Thus, the probabilities should be P = \frac{2}{3} for l_{z} = 1 \hbar and P = 1/3 for l_{z} = 0 \hbar.

For the expectation value, I should evaluate the integral:

<L_{z}> = \int \Psi L_{z} \Psi \,d^{3}r = \int \Psi \frac{\partial \Psi}{\partial \phi} \,d^{3}r

<L_{z}> = \frac{2}{3} \int Y_{1,1} (-i \hbar \frac{\partial}{\partial \phi}) Y_{1,1} \,d^{3}r + \frac{1}{3} \int Y_{1,0} (-i \hbar\frac{\partial}{\partial \phi}) Y_{1,0} \,d^{3}r

The Y_{1,0} does not depend on the azimuth angle, so:

<L_{z}> = \frac{2}{3} \int Y_{1,1} (-i \hbar \frac{\partial}{\partial \phi}) Y_{1,1} \,d^{3}r

<L_{z}> = \frac{2}{3} \hbar \int_0^\pi sin^{2} \theta \,d\theta \int_0^{2 \pi} e^{2 i \phi} \,d\phi


However, the result of this integral is zero.

Is that right or am I doing something wrong?
 
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FLms said:
For the expectation value, I should evaluate the integral:

<L_{z}> = \int \Psi L_{z} \Psi \,d^{3}r = \int \Psi \frac{\partial \Psi}{\partial \phi} \,d^{3}r

Did you forget to take the complex conjugate somewhere?

You can get the answer for ##<L_{z}>## without doing these integrations by just using the probabilities that you have found.
 
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TSny said:
Did you forget to take the complex conjugate somewhere?

Yes. The integral is actually:\int \Psi^{*} L_{z} \Psi \,d^{3}r = -i \hbar \int \Psi^{*} \frac{\partial \Psi}{\partial \phi} \,d^{3}r

And,

Y_{l,m}^{*} = (-1)^{m}Y_{l,-m}

TSny said:
You can get the answer for ##<L_{z}>## without doing these integrations by just using the probabilities that you have found.

&lt;L_{z}&gt; = P_{m_{l} = 1} (m_{l} \hbar) + P_{m_{l} = -1} (m_{l} \hbar)
&lt;L_{z}&gt; = \frac{2}{3}(1 \hbar) + \frac{1}{3} (0 \hbar)
&lt;L_{z}&gt; = \frac{2}{3} \hbar

Is that it?

By solvind the integral, I get &lt;L_{z}&gt; = \frac{2}{3} \pi^{2} \hbar.
 
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FLms said:
&lt;L_{z}&gt; = P_{m_{l} = 1} (m_{l} \hbar) + P_{m_{l} = -1} (m_{l} \hbar)
&lt;L_{z}&gt; = \frac{2}{3}(1 \hbar) + \frac{1}{3} (0 \hbar)
&lt;L_{z}&gt; = \frac{2}{3} \hbar

Is that it?
Yes. (Maybe a typographical error in your first line.)

By solvind the integral, I get &lt;L_{z}&gt; = \frac{2}{3} \pi^{2} \hbar.

It seems to come out ok for me. I don't think your original wave function ##\Psi## is normalized.
(Your integrals over the spherical harmonics should not have ##d^3r## since you have presumably already integrated over ##r##.)
 

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