Zero Electric Potential Concept and Visualization

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The discussion revolves around the concept of electric potential, particularly in the context of two opposite charges and the significance of a point where the electric potential is zero. The original poster seeks to understand the implications of zero potential at a point equidistant from the charges and the work involved in moving a charge to that point.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the meaning of electric potential as a relative measure and discuss the concept of equipotential lines. Questions arise regarding the work done in moving a charge from infinity to a point on the equipotential line, particularly when not following the equipotential path.

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Participants are engaging in a productive exploration of the concept of electric potential and the nature of work done in electric fields. Some guidance has been provided regarding the conservative nature of electric fields and the implications for work done, but no consensus has been reached on all aspects of the discussion.

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There is an emphasis on the relative nature of electric potential and the conventional definition of zero potential at infinity. The discussion includes considerations of paths taken when moving charges in an electric field.

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Homework Statement


Hi, I've been having problems visualizing and interpreting a situation where there is zero potential in a point, equidistant, between two opposite charges. What is the significance of this? Here's a sample problem:Consider two point charges. One has a charge of +1 μC and the other has a charge of –1 μC. Consider a point P on the line connecting the charges. The point is the same distance from each charge. Which one of the following statements is true concerning the electric field and the electric potential at P?

Homework Equations


Electric potential formula: V= ke Qsource/r

The Attempt at a Solution


I know that at the equidistant point of the two opposite charges, the electric potential cancels out. Since electric potential is defined as the work done per charge of a positive charged particle to move it from infinity to a point under the influence of a source charge; does the zero potential between the two charges mean that it takes zero work to bring a charge from infinity to that point?[/B]
 
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One problem is that electric potential is only really meaningful as a relative matter. Conventionally, you can define zero potential as the potential 'at infinity'.
You can think of it as a landscape. Equipotentials form contour lines. If you move along contour lines there's no work done. If you move between two points at the same height, but crossing a valley or ridge to do so, there is still no net work done because the work you gained on the descent you lost on the ascent.
Given (only) two equal and opposite charges, all points equidistant from them must lie on an equipotential. Since that includes points at infinity, we can say this is the zero potential.
 
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haruspex said:
One problem is that electric potential is only really meaningful as a relative matter. Conventionally, you can define zero potential as the potential 'at infinity'.
You can think of it as a landscape. Equipotentials form contour lines. If you move along contour lines there's no work done. If you move between two points at the same height, but crossing a valley or ridge to do so, there is still no net work done because the work you gained on the descent you lost on the ascent.
Given (only) two equal and opposite charges, all points equidistant from them must lie on an equipotential. Since that includes points at infinity, we can say this is the zero potential.

Alright, then if I moved a charge from infinity and traveled a path not along the equidistant equipotential line but ended up at a point at the equidistant equipotential line then no work is done still?
 
Solisiel said:
Alright, then if I moved a charge from infinity and traveled a path not along the equidistant equipotential line but ended up at a point at the equidistant equipotential line then no work is done still?
Yes.
 
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haruspex said:
Yes.

Thanks for your help!
 
Solisiel said:
Alright, then if I moved a charge from infinity and traveled a path not along the equidistant equipotential line but ended up at a point at the equidistant equipotential line then no work is done still?
The work is the same as the electric field is conservative. The work done between two points does not depend on the actual path.
 

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