Calculate time to raise temperature of water

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The discussion revolves around calculating the time required to raise the temperature of water using a kettle, focusing on the concepts of heat capacity and specific heat capacity. Participants are exploring how these concepts relate to the energy calculations needed for the heating process.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the definitions and differences between heat capacity and specific heat capacity, questioning how heat capacity fits into the overall calculation for heating water. They explore the energy required to heat both the water and the kettle itself.

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Some participants have provided insights into the relationship between heat capacity and the energy calculations. There is an acknowledgment of the need to consider the kettle's heat capacity in addition to the water's specific heat capacity, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework problem that requires understanding the interplay between different forms of heat capacity and their implications for energy calculations. There is an emphasis on the need for clarity in the definitions being used.

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The problem I have is in understanding what is meant by heat capacity (as opposed to specific heat capacity).

I have been given the heat capacity (J kg-1) of a kettle plus the power input (IV), the mass of water and given that the water must be raised from room temp to boiling point.

The question asked is how long will this take.

I know that Specific Heat Capacity = I V t / m (change in temp) but where does the heat capacity come in all of this?

Any help appreciated!
 
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Well, a specific heat capacity is in J/kg*C while your heat capacity is simply in J/C. It's called a heat capacity basically when you're just using an object as opposed to different masses. For example, I'd use a crucible as a calorimeter that has a heat capacity of 180J/C because the mass doesn't change, its simply an object whose mass remains constant.
 
Thanks peng. I can understand that part - I just can't see how it fits into the calculation. The way I see it:

The energy required to heat the water = mass x specific heat capacity of water x change in temp

And:

Time to change temp = Energy required / Power input

I know this is not correct but I don't know why
 
Well remember... the water isn't the only thing being heated up...
 
Yes, I see where you are coming from now. I need to think about it some more.
 
Time = (Energy to heat water + Energy to heat kettle) / Power input

Energy to heat kettle = Heat capacity x change in temp ?
 
exactly!

good job.
 
Thanks peng. I got there in the end!
 

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