Proof of the total differential of f(x,y)?

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The discussion centers on demonstrating the total differential of a smooth, continuous function of two variables, z=f(x,y), specifically showing that Δz ≈ (∂z/∂x)Δx + (∂z/∂y)Δy. Participants suggest starting with the expression f(x+Δx, y+Δy) - f(x,y) and breaking it down using the properties of tangent planes and the chain rule. There is a recognition that while the geometric interpretation is clear, a formal proof is needed to validate the approximation. The conversation highlights the challenge of proving the chain rule without first establishing the total differential. Ultimately, the goal is to demonstrate that differential approximations are valid and reliable.
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If I have a smooth, continuous function of 2 variables, z=f(x,y)

I want to show what Δz ≈ (∂z/∂x)Δx + (∂z/∂y)Δy

Most places I've seen call this a definition, but it's not really that obvious. I know that it makes perfect sense geometrically, but I want a little more.

One way I thought of approaching it is to put a tangent plane at the point x0 y0 and show that going along x then along y is like cutting diagonally across to x,y.
Basically I need to show that f(x+Δx ,y+Δy) = f(x+Δx, y) +f(x, y+Δy) - f(x,y).

Unfortunately I'm not good at math, not good at proofs, tired, and a bit busy/lazy :), so I'm calling in the troops. Thanks!
 
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Hi Curl! :smile:

Try starting with f(x+Δx ,y+Δy) - f(x,y)

= f(x+Δx, y+∆y) - f(x+Δx, y) + f(x+Δx, y) - f(x, y). :wink:
 
Another way of looking at it is this: suppose x and y were functions of some parameter, t.

Then f(t)= f(x(t),y(t)) and, by the chain rule,
\frac{df}{dt}= \frac{\partial f}{\partial x}\frac{dx}{dt}+ \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}\frac{dy}{dt}
In terms of the differential, we can write that as
df= \frac{df}{dt}dt= \left(\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}\frac{dx}{dt}+ \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}\frac{dy}{dt}\right)dt= \frac{\partial f}{\partial x}dx+ \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}dy
which is now independent of t.
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi Curl! :smile:

Try starting with f(x+Δx ,y+Δy) - f(x,y)

= f(x+Δx, y+∆y) - f(x+Δx, y) + f(x+Δx, y) - f(x, y). :wink:
hehehe, clever! thanks.
And yes, I've thought of using the chain rule, but at this point we can't prove the chain rule without proving this. So it's like the chicken and the egg.
 
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Curl said:
If I have a smooth, continuous function of 2 variables, z=f(x,y)

I want to show what Δz ≈ (∂z/∂x)Δx + (∂z/∂y)Δy

Most places I've seen call this a definition, but it's not really that obvious. I know that it makes perfect sense geometrically, but I want a little more.
Just FYI, it sounds like what you are really asking for is a demonstration differential approximations are good approximations.
 
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