Determine all real valued differentiable functions f(x)+f(y)=f(xy)

In summary, the conversation discusses finding all real-valued differentiable functions f, defined for real x>0, that satisfy the equation f(x)+f(y)=f(xy) for all x,y>0. The solutions to this equation are f(x)=c*ln(x), where c is a constant. The discussion includes a proof and various steps to arrive at this solution.
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Determine, with proof, all the real-valued differentiable functions $f$, defined
for real $x > 0$, which satisfy $f(x) + f(y) = f(xy)$ for all $x, y > 0$.
 
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The first thing I would notice is that, taking y= 0, f(x)+ f(0)= f(0) so that f(x)= 0 for all x.
 
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because f(xy) = f(x) + f(y) and defined for x, y >0 I see a log function $f(x) =m\log\,x$ satisfies criteria where m is arbitrary constant. m= 0 gives above solution(post #2)
 
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lfdahl said:
Determine, with proof, all the real-valued differentiable functions $f$, defined
for real $x > 0$, which satisfy $f(x) + f(y) = f(xy)$ for all $x, y > 0$.
[sp]With $x=y=1$, $f(1) + f(1) = f(1)$, from which $f(1) = 0$.

Fix $y$, and differentiate the equation $f(x) + f(y) = f(xy)$ with respect to $x$: $f'(x) = yf'(xy)$. Therefore $xf'(x) = xyf'(xy)$.

Now let $z = xy$, so that $xf'(x) = zf'(z)$. Since that is true for all positive numbers $x$ and $z$, it follows that $xf'(x)$ is constant, say $xf'(x) = c$. Then $f'(x) = \dfrac cx$, so we can integrate to get $f(x) = c\ln x + d$ (where $d$ is another constant). But $f(1) = 0$, so that $d=0$. Thus $f(x) = c\ln x$, and those are the only solutions.[/sp]
 
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kaliprasad said:
because f(xy) = f(x) + f(y) and defined for x, y >0 I see a log function $f(x) =m\log\,x$ satisfies criteria where m is arbitrary constant. m= 0 gives above solution(post #2)
Hi, kaliprasad!
Your intuitive solution is correct indeed! Thanks for participating!

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Opalg said:
[sp]With $x=y=1$, $f(1) + f(1) = f(1)$, from which $f(1) = 0$.

Fix $y$, and differentiate the equation $f(x) + f(y) = f(xy)$ with respect to $x$: $f'(x) = yf'(xy)$. Therefore $xf'(x) = xyf'(xy)$.

Now let $z = xy$, so that $xf'(x) = zf'(z)$. Since that is true for all positive numbers $x$ and $z$, it follows that $xf'(x)$ is constant, say $xf'(x) = c$. Then $f'(x) = \dfrac cx$, so we can integrate to get $f(x) = c\ln x + d$ (where $d$ is another constant). But $f(1) = 0$, so that $d=0$. Thus $f(x) = c\ln x$, and those are the only solutions.[/sp]

Thanks, Opalg! for your participation. Your solution is - of course - correct!(Yes)
 

1. What does it mean for a function to be "real-valued"?

A real-valued function is one that maps real numbers (numbers with decimal points) to other real numbers. This means that the input and output values of the function are all real numbers.

2. What does it mean for a function to be differentiable?

A differentiable function is one that has a well-defined derivative at every point in its domain. This means that the function is smooth and has a unique slope at every point.

3. What does the equation "f(x)+f(y)=f(xy)" mean?

This equation is known as the functional equation and it means that the sum of the function's values at x and y is equal to its value at the product of x and y. This equation can be used to find relationships between different inputs and outputs of the function.

4. How can I determine all real-valued differentiable functions that satisfy the equation "f(x)+f(y)=f(xy)"?

To determine all possible functions that satisfy this equation, you can use a combination of algebraic manipulation and calculus techniques. This may involve finding the derivative of the function and solving for its unknown coefficients.

5. Can this equation be applied to any type of function?

Yes, this equation can be applied to any type of function as long as it is real-valued and differentiable. However, the solution may differ depending on the specific properties of the function.

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