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Mar11-11, 12:08 PM   #52
 
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8.9 earthquake in Japan: tsunami warnings


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I don’t know if this is a "rumor", but I heard on BBC that they lost normal power to cool the hot (but shoot down) core, and then tried to start the diesel reserve and that failed too, and now they are running the cooling system on batteries(?)... which will run out sooner or later...?
Here are the official statements from TEPCO. Any other statement from the media should be considered unsubstantiated.

Press Release (Mar 11,2011)
Occurrence of a Specific Incident Stipulated in Article 15, Clause 1 of the Act on Special Measures Concerning Nuclear Emergency Preparedness(Fukushima Daiichi)

Today at approximately 2:46PM, turbines and reactors of Tokyo Electric
Power Company's Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station Unit 1 (Boiling
Water Reactor, rated output 460 Megawatts) and Units 2 and 3 (Boiling
Water Reactor, Rated Output 784 Megawatts) that had been operating at
rated power automatically shutdown due to the Miyagiken-oki Earthquake.

For the above 3 units, off-site power was lost due to malfunction of one
out of two off-site power systems, leading to automatic startup of
emergency diesel generators.

Subsequently, at 3:41PM, emergency diesel generators shutdown due to
malfunction resulting in the complete loss of alternating current for all
three units.

. . . .
http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp...1031103-e.html

followed by Press Release (Mar 11,2011)
Occurrence of a Specific Incident Stipulated in Article 10, Clause 1 of the Act on Special Measures Concerning Nuclear Emergency Preparedness(Fukushima Daini)

Today at 2:46PM, turbines and reactors of Tokyo Electric Power Company's
Fukushima Daini Nuclear Power Station Units 1 to 4 (Boiling Water Reactor,
rated output 1,100 Megawatts) that had been operating at rated power
automatically shutdown due to the Miyagiken-oki Earthquake.

Currently, reactor water level for Units 1 to 4 is maintained by injecting
water into the reactors by the Reactor Core Isolation Cooling System.
The reactors are maintained at a subcritical condition.

For Unit 1, the emergency core cooling system automatically started up
due to increase in the reactor containment pressure assumed to be caused
by leakage of reactor coolant in the reactor containment.

Hence, at 5:35PM, it was decided that a specific incident stipulated in
Article 10, Clause 1 of the Act on Special Measures Concerning Nuclear
Emergency Preparedness *1 has occurred.

At 5:50PM, pursuant to the Act, relevant governmental institutions were
notified of the incident.

Future Actions: TEPCO is taking measures to reduce the pressure of the reactor containment.

Impact to safety and external environment:
Water level to cool the irradiated nuclear fuel in the reactor core is
maintained at this moment.
Indication of the monitoring posts installed in the periphery of the power
station is no different from usual and thus no radiation impact to the
external environment is confirmed at this moment.
We will continue to monitor in detail the possibility of discharge of
radioactive material from exhaust stacks and coolant water discharge canal.

. . . .
http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp...1031104-e.html

Loss of off-site power would be expected for such an event. Failure of EDGs or ECCS is not expected.

Additional information - http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/index-e.html

More on the tsunami - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80CH_XkpSCE
Miyaki prefecture coast was hit especially hard.

Other videos
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theenv...ke-and-tsunami

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YPOK_3r8Dc

What gets me is the people that keep driving toward the flood waters. Clearly some are not paying attention to the unfolding disaster.
Mar11-11, 12:25 PM   #53
 
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Quote by Astronuc View Post
Here are the official statements from TEPCO. Any other statement from the media should be considered unsubstantiated.
Thanks Astronuc!

I guessed BBC was "out on thin ice"...
Mar11-11, 12:28 PM   #54
 
It's hard to avoid a measure of hysteria in the media when splitting atoms comes into play... unforunately. We're lucky to have a knowledgeable voice of reason and patience.

Thanks Astronuc.
Mar11-11, 12:43 PM   #55
 
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Sheesh... that's amazing.
Yes... and sometimes I wonder if 100% knowledge is really 'healthy' for the nerves...

Latest Earthquakes M5.0+ in the World - Past 7 days



Magnitude 8.9 - NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN

But then again (being 'selfish'), I live in a 'freezer' that seldom 'moves'...

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And thanks buddy.
welcome


P.S. Being a complete ignorant amateur – isn’t there very many large quakes "Near the east coast of Honshu, Japan" BEFORE the "BIG ONE"...???
Mar11-11, 01:05 PM   #56
 
News of a dam breaking, up to 1800 homes washed away. Very tragic indeed.
Mar11-11, 01:07 PM   #57
 
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Waves have already passed Hawaii, and they will hit coasts of Alaska, British Columbia, Washington, Oregon, California, and points south. Some of the energy will dissipate across the ocean.
I live in one of those places (BC)! Apparently all the beaches here are deserted.
Mar11-11, 01:43 PM   #59
 
Well... never say that things can't get worse.

Quote by CNN Ticker
An estimated 6.6-magnitude earthquake has struck Nagano and Niigata prefectures in Japan, Kyodo news service reports.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapc...pt=T1&iref=BN1

Quote by CNN
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
NEW: The U.S. is sending two disaster response teams to Japan
The quake is Japan's strongest in recorded history, Geologic Survey records show
The tsunami reaches as far as 6.2 miles inland
Hundreds of people are reported dead, with hundreds more missing
This is a mess.
Mar11-11, 01:52 PM   #60
 
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Two more notable earthquakes.
Mag, UTC date time Lat, Long, depth (km) location
6.1 2011/03/11 19:02:58 39.372 142.900 24.8 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN (same system at the mag 8.9)
6.2 2011/03/11 18:59:15 37.037 138.355 1.0 NEAR THE WEST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN (different system on the west side of the island, NW of Tokyo.) This would be toward the Kashiwazaki-Kariwa NPPs near Nagaoka.
Mar11-11, 01:59 PM   #61
 
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I've never seen a waterfall of cars before. Wow. Amazing and horrific!!!

The raging black torrent rushing across the countryside is the stuff of nightmares.
Mar11-11, 01:59 PM   #62
 
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Japan warns of small radiation leak from quake-hit plant
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7EB2GO20110311
Mar11-11, 02:00 PM   #63
 
Oh fabulous... if Mothra arrives, I'll be surprised, but not shocked.
Mar11-11, 02:01 PM   #64
 
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Quote by DevilsAvocado View Post
P.S. Being a complete ignorant amateur – isn’t there very many large quakes "Near the east coast of Honshu, Japan" BEFORE the "BIG ONE"...???
There have been mag 6's and 7's (with aftershocks in the 4-5 range) near the coast before, but an 8.9 is rare, but really devastating.

Magnitude 8 and Greater Earthquakes Since 1900
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquak..._1900_date.php

Mostly the big ones have been in the low 8's, but there are several in the 8.8 and greater range. Chile had the mag 8.8 last year.

The big one (mag 9.1) off Sumatra (west of Aceh) 2004-12-26 (lat 3.295 long 95.982) killed 227,898 mostly due to tsunamis.

Before that Chile, Alaska and Russia have had some 9's.
Mar11-11, 02:03 PM   #65
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richter_magnitude_scale
Quote by Wikipedia
8.9 336 megatons 1.41 EJ Sendai earthquake (Japan), 2011
That... is a LOT of energy.
Mar11-11, 02:06 PM   #66
 
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The plant personnel apparently plan to release some pressure from the primary system of FK-1, unit 1, and they have to prepare the public for that. The steam would contain noble gases, radioisotopes of Xe and Kr, which would be vent up a stack and diluted in the wind, which will carry it eastward out to sea (Pacific Ocean). Ostensibly, any iodine will be captured on filters, which are designed to capture iodine, which is then allowed to decay.

Nevertheless, this is not a situation that any plant operator wants to be in. It is a black eye for TEPCO and Japans nuclear industry.


Note the reds lines in the plots of the earthquakes. We could be seeing some more significant seismic activity south of Tokyo.
Mar11-11, 02:07 PM   #67
 
Quote by Astronuc View Post
The plant personnel apparently plan to release some pressure from the primary system, and they have to prepare the public for that. The steam would contain noble gases, radioisotopes of Xe and Kr, which would be vent up a stack and diluted in the wind, which will carry it eastward out to sea (Pacific Ocean). Ostensibly, any iodine will be captured on filters, which are designed to capture iodine, which is then allowed to decay.

Nevertheless, this is not a situation that any plant operator wants to be in. It is a black eye for TEPCO and Japans nuclear industry.
If this had been a pebble-bed reactor, would this have been an issue? Is there a reactor that would be able to avoid this kind of event?
Mar11-11, 02:11 PM   #68
 
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If this had been a pebble-bed reactor, would this have been an issue? Is there a reactor that would be able to avoid this kind of event?
I have heard claims that a gas-cooled, graphite-moderated reactor is immune to such a problem. In theory it is so, but I haven't done the calcs to demonstrate it. Nor do I necessarily trust such claims.
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