# Combining forces.

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 P: 159 1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data 3. Draw figures showing how you would combine a 6 N force and an 8 N force to obtain a resultant force with magnitude (a) 14 N; (b) 2 N; (c) 10 N. 2. Relevant equations 3. The attempt at a solution I just don't know where to start or what equation to use.
 Mentor P: 5,190 Do you understand how to calculate a vector sum graphically? That's all this question is really about...
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 Quote by cepheid Do you understand how to calculate a vector sum graphically? That's all this question is really about...
In our lab we graphed forces, but they had an angle as well.

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## Combining forces.

Oh wait, like draw a straight line with 8 and 6 for 14, while drawing lines with arrows towards each other for 2?

14
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 Quote by Crusaderking1 Oh wait, like draw a straight line with 8 and 6 for 14, while drawing lines with arrows towards each other for 2?
Well, you've found two combinations that work. If the forces are in the same direction, the magnitude of the resultant is just the sum of the magnitudes of the two vectors. Likewise if they're in the exact opposite direction, the magnitude of the resultant is just the difference of their magnitudes. But the more general case is when they are not co-linear, meaning along the same line. I.e. the angle between them is something other than 0 or 180 degrees. How do you find the resultant in this case? In other words, how do vectors sum together? You should know this.
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 Quote by cepheid Well, you've found two combinations that work. If the forces are in the same direction, the magnitude of the resultant is just the sum of the magnitudes of the two vectors. Likewise if they're in the exact opposite direction, the magnitude of the resultant is just the difference of their magnitudes. But the more general case is when they are not co-linear, meaning along the same line. I.e. the angle between them is something other than 0 or 180 degrees. How do you find the resultant in this case? In other words, how do vectors sum together? You should know this.
Well, I can add vectors(of force) by finding components, graphing them, or using a force table.

I don't really know how to add vectors that well, but wouldnt there be a 90 degree angle between 6 and 8 to give me 10, since 8^2+6^2 square root= 10.

Thanks.
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 Quote by Crusaderking1 Well, I can add vectors(of force) by finding components, graphing them, or using a force table. I don't really know how to add vectors that well, but wouldnt there be a 90 degree angle between 6 and 8 to give me 10, since 8^2+6^2 square root= 10.
Yeah. So you figured out the answer to all three cases by trial and error or "guess and check." But the general method for finding the resultant is either to resolve each vector into components and add them component-wise, or to do it graphically by using the "parallelogram rule" for vector sums (which I can only assume you must have learned):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euclide...nd_subtraction
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 Quote by cepheid Yeah. So you figured out the answer to all three cases by trial and error or "guess and check." But the general method for finding the resultant is either to resolve each vector into components and add them component-wise, or to do it graphically by using the "parallelogram rule" for vector sums (which I can only assume you must have learned): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euclide...nd_subtraction
Thanks a lot.

I definitely understand what I'm suppose to do much better.

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