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micromass
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Feb16-12, 04:28 PM
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It would be interesting if one could prove that 1 is never one of the integers in the solution.
It will be since

[tex]1999=1^3+321409^3+894590^3+(-908211)^3[/tex]
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Feb16-12, 05:24 PM
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It will be since

[tex]1999=1^3+321409^3+894590^3+(-908211)^3[/tex]
Wow, how did you get that? Did you use some kind of computer or did you find it using some theory or theorem?
micromass
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Feb16-12, 05:33 PM
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Wow, how did you get that?
Just letting a computer check the possibilities. Nothing fancy.
I didn't even program it, I found this on a list online
Anti-Crackpot
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Feb16-12, 06:16 PM
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Hi Mathguy15,

Multiply out the terms, but first cube your 3rd term since you're going to cube it later anyway...

n^3 + 30*n^2 + 300n + 1000
-n^3 + 30*n^2 - 300n + 1000
(-60*n^2)
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30*n^2 + 30*n^2 - 60*n^2 = 0
1000 + 1000 - 1 = 1999

You could do the same thing for (n+8)^3 = 1n^3 + 24*n^2 + 192n + 512, and (n-8)^3, but you'd have to replace (-60*n^2) with (-48*n^2) and 1999 with 1023. And so on...

Note that you're not really dealing with cubes since they cancel out when you multiply out and collect the terms.
alphachapmtl
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Feb17-12, 09:37 AM
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I was studying (yet another) number theory problem, described here:

Prove that the equation x^3+y^3+z^3+t^3=1999 has infinitely many solutions (x,y,z,t) in integers.

I found a way of constructing these solutions, which I will describe right now: Consider the quadruple of real numbers of the form (10+n,10-n,-(60n^2)^1/3,-1), where n is an integer. The sum of the cubes of these real numbers, for arbitrary n, is always 1999. Let n be of the form s^3*60, where s is any integer. Then the quadruple described above becomes an integer quadruple. Since there are infinitely many such n, there are infinitely many integer solutions to the equation.
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mathguy15(whos now 16)
Seems you're right!

Anti-Crackpot
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Feb17-12, 10:26 AM
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If you want to generalize further mathguy15...

for any n or k in N

First term: (1*k^0*n^3) + (3*k^1*n^2) + (3*k^2*n^1) + (1*k^3*n^0) = (n+k)^3
Second term: -(1*k^0*n^3) + (3*k^1*n^2) - (3*k^2*n^1) + (1*k^3*n^0)
Third term: (Derived from above 2nd terms doubled)
Fourth term: -1

... then figure out the formula for those coefficients (x) above (which is almost certainly related to the Binomial Coefficients aka "the coefficients of the expansion of (x+1)^n"). Do that and then you'll have a nice little equation in 3 variables that will work for any n, k or x in N.

Binomial Coefficients:
1
1 1 --> Powers of 1
1 2 1 --> Powers of 2
1 3 3 1 --> Powers of 3...
1 4 6 4 1 --> Powers of 4...

...when inserted into Polynomials.

In the example you posted, then set k = 10

- AC
Anti-Crackpot
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Feb17-12, 02:58 PM
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Here's an example of what I was referring to in the previous post, thinking-wise. Take the form...

(10 + n)^5 + (10 - n)^5 + (-100*n^4) + (-20000*n^2) + (-1) = 199999

Echoing the form used by mathguy15...

v = (10 + n)
w = (10 - n)
x = (-100*n^4)^(1/5)
y = (-20000*n'^2))^(1/5)
z = -1

x = an integer for (-100*(100*s^5)^4)^(1/5); n =(100*s^5)
y = an integer for (-20000*(125*s'^10)^2))^(1/5); n' = (125*s^10)

Will have to see where to go from there, meaning what conclusions one might come to regarding:
v^5 + w^5 + x^5 + y^5 + z^5


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