read Mary L Boaswhat now ? (fuller/byron) ?by knockout_artist Tags: boaswhat, fuller or byron, mary 

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Nov912, 10:05 AM

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So
I read worked on Mary's math book it was rather not difficult to read. I am reading or should I say trying to read fuller/byron's Mathematics of quantum and classical physics. I am having moving real slow, some due to the style of proof and I miss so much and then come back over and over. Reason of my learning. I want to build a strong base of math for physics to extant I can think in math independently. Self teaching. Do you have to say some thing ? I do have many dover or other physics books I read in once in a while too. Thank you for reading my gibberish. 



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Nov912, 02:30 PM

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Note that if you've read the Preface to that book, you'll understand that there's a distinct difference between the two and why in one, you'll only get a superficial knowledge of the subject matter. Zz. 



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Nov912, 02:42 PM

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I read and worked on selected examples from Mary's book.
I bought fuller's book before Mary's book, I could not go pass page 11 in 17 tries. Then I bought Mary's book, then things started making sense to me. I guess what I am asking is am on the right path regarding math? Fuller book is difficult for me, so if I understand it would it help a lot ? This book is too intense on linear mathematics. Its a great pleasure when I understand some thing from this book, but some time it takes time. Some time it use techniques which are looks too narrow to me. Like Mary explains ODEs PDEs but Fuller's book start from one greens function only. Stuff like that. Should I stop with math books for a while and read physics books ? Thank you very much for your reply. 



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Nov912, 02:52 PM

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read Mary L Boaswhat now ? (fuller/byron) ?
This is not either or. You should continue with Mary Boas's text even while reading other physics books.
Also, you shouldn't just do her examples. You need to work through as many of the problems she listed as well. There's a Students Solution Manual that will show the worked out answers of some of the problems. But for some others, you should at least be able to check for the correct answers. Zz. 



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Nov912, 02:54 PM

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Sorry its my first time discussing these things so there is so much I don't know.
While reading Mary's I am sitting on with book/paper/pencil with occasionally internet(wikipidea) or (calculus for dummies) for help, but that NOT very often. Now Fuller's I am like chicken on a hot floor, always printing pages, always looking for other books to find help etc etc. Is this how it goes ? 



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Nov912, 02:55 PM

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I keep it in my bag, it never disappoint me. I did many problems, not just her examples. I will do more problems. 



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Nov912, 03:01 PM

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If you have done many of the problems in her book, then you should be quite wellprepared for many of the mathematics that you will encounter in undergraduate level physics.
Note that, as from her Preface, she wrote the book in a way that it can be used for selfstudy. That is why there's almost a "conversational" tone on the way she presents the material. This is not true for many texts out there. So it isn't surprising that you find her book easier to follow, but not another book. Zz. 



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Nov912, 03:10 PM

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Thanks ZZ




#9
Nov1012, 02:15 PM

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You might want to branch out into individual topics. Here's a good one on Green's Functions, among other things:
http://www.amazon.com/PrinciplesTec...dp/0486664449/ 



#10
Nov1012, 06:03 PM

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That book looks very interesting. :) Thanks for sharing Daverz!! 



#11
Nov1012, 07:09 PM

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Ok.
Bought this book :) 



#12
Nov1012, 10:23 PM

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In addition to learning more math, you can also use the math you have learned to learn more physics. You can find lots of book recommendations for various fields by using the search feature on this site. Best of luck, jason 



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Nov1212, 03:02 AM

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I find that it is a good book too and provides questions in different levels of difficulty.
But can I check if anyone has any solutions or worked solutions to help students that are not as mathematicalsavvy like myself? 



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Nov1312, 08:08 AM

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jason 



#15
Nov1312, 09:00 AM

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Hassani mathematical methods is a very good book. Above the level of Boas, less terse than Byron and Fuller, more rigorous than arfken. All of those books have their place.




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Nov1412, 11:16 AM

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#17
Nov1412, 11:17 AM

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Thanks for reminding me that. :) I did read geometric optics and DID understand it finally :) :) 


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