What are the differences between fuzzy logic control and PID control?

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Fuzzy logic control improves upon traditional bang-bang control by allowing for more nuanced control actions, such as varying degrees of heater activation rather than simple on/off states. Unlike PID control, which assumes linear system behavior and known transfer functions, fuzzy logic does not require these assumptions, making it suitable for complex systems. The discussion highlights that while PID can effectively manage systems with predictable behavior, fuzzy logic excels in scenarios where precise control is necessary without a clear model. The article shared provides a detailed comparison between the two control methods, emphasizing their respective strengths and applications. Understanding these differences can help determine the best approach for specific control needs.
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I am trying to begin with fuzzy logic, but this initial question is preventing me from moving any forward.
It appears that fuzzy logic control is just an improvement over bang-bang control system. Like instead of doing bang-up , bang-down it does bang-up-hard, bang-up-small bang-down-small etc. It just appears to be discretized proportional control. If it is all about it, we have even better PID control, so why use fuzzy? Obviously I am missing something. Please help.
 
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What your missing is the needed process model. In siuations where close is good enough the bang up bang down method is fine. One example is tank filling.

However there are numerous situations that require tighter control. Some will accept a quartlery amplitude decay. Some need even further dampening to being critically dampened.

The key is the needs of the process.
 
Most "simple" control theory (e.g. PID system design) assumes the behaviour of the system is lnear and its transfer functions are known.

Fuzzy logic system design doesn't require either of those two assumptions.
 
In fuzzy logic control of temperature, you don't say temp is cold, instead you say temp is .83cold, so instead of doing heater on you do heater .83on.
I still find it fundamentally very similar to proportional control.
Can someone show me fundamental difference?
 
Rather than go into th extensive pros and cons of each this article has a well described comparison between the two. In many ways either can be used.

http://www.ece.uidaho.edu/ee/classes/ECE573F05/PID vs Fuzzy Control.pdf

one thing to note that this article does not discuss ifs the Kreiger Nickoles math usually give a quarterly amplitude decay.

thats 4 overshoots each overshoot less each time before it stabilizes on a setpoint. The math gets you close but not critically dampened. critically dampened is no overshoot a smooth transition to set point.
 
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Mordred said:
Rather than go into th extensive pros and cons of each this article has a well described comparison between the two. In many ways either can be used.

http://www.ece.uidaho.edu/ee/classes/ECE573F05/PID vs Fuzzy Control.pdf

one thing to note that this article does not discuss ifs the Kreiger Nickoles math usually give a quarterly amplitude decay.

thats 4 overshoots each overshoot less each time before it stabilizes on a setpoint. The math gets you close but not critically dampened. critically dampened is no overshoot a smooth transition to set point.
Thanks.
The article looks just like what I was looking for.
I will read it thoroughly and come with more questions if required.
 
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