The Truth about 911 gutting the disinformation, LETS GET IT ON

by Sub-Zer0
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 P: 20 PNAC(Project For a New American Centeury The Project for a New American Century (PNAC) was founded by Dick Chenney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Lewis Libby and others in 2000. This is a pro-globalization neo-con think tank. On his website Dick Cheney lays out a Blueprint for America to invade many of it's neighbors and construct a "global command and control system" Cheney sites Syria, Libya, and North Korea as terrorist regimes, and uses their existence to justify invasions and restructuring there powers under a Pax America. It's strange, earlier in the year; Rumsfeld was selling Nuclear Reactors to North Korea. Now he's sitting in meetings at PNAC calling them a dangerous regime. HaHa, who made them more dangerous, Mr. Rumsfeld? This document also mentions that public support would be very difficult to rally for these upcoming wars, and that a "Pearl Harbor Like Attack" would be very helpful. Now this is a public document, saying we need helpful Pearl Harbor attacks, that's motive, and practically admittance. Sources: PNAC offical site read the documents. Meacher talks about PNAC too Guardian UK - The Two Faces of Rumseld Not only this, but "the US and the UK, are running dangerously low on hydrocarbon energy supplies. And by 2010 the Muslim world will control as much as 60% of the worlds oil production, and 95% of the remaining exportable oil. " Protecting oil supplies in a crisis Taliban to Texas for Oil Talks Bottom of the Barrel, the world is runnin out of oil, why do Politicans refuse to talk about it? Threats of US to strike Taliban weeks before the attacks Cui Bono(Who Benefits?) Three Corporations involved in the war on terror/The World effort. They are the Carlyle Group, Unocal, and Halliburton, Carlyle group: Bush and the Bin Laden family are BOTH investors in this company, that is headed almost exclusively by former government officials. They developed missile targeting systems, and have exponentially increased their profits since 911. Unocal: Bush just hired the former CEO, I believe to his administration, others inside the camp are investors as well. This is the company building the pipeline through Afghanistan, to route the oil out, they are poised to make a killing off of oil deals directly resulting from 911 after math. Halliburton: I don't even half to say it. Well incase I do, Halliburton is a construction company raking in billions of dollars from rebuilding the spots on the map, after America destroys them. And to top all that off, "No serious attempt has ever been made to catch Bin Laden. In late September and early October 2001, leaders of Pakistan's two Islamist parties negotiated Bin Laden's extradition to Pakistan to stand trial for 9/11. However, a US official said, significantly, that "casting our objectives too narrowly" risked "a premature collapse of the international effort if by some lucky chance Mr. Bin Laden was captured". The US chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, General Myers, went so far as to say that "the goal has never been to get Bin Laden" (AP, April 5 2002). The whistle blowing FBI agent Robert Wright told ABC News (December 19 2002) that FBI headquarters wanted no arrests. And in November 2001 the US air force complained it had had al-Qaida and Taliban leaders in its sights as many as 10 times over the previous six weeks, but had been unable to attack because they did not receive permission quickly enough (Time Magazine, May 13 2002). None of this assembled evidence, all of which comes from sources already in the public domain, is compatible with the idea of a real, determined war on terrorism" Micheal Meacher The War on terror is not the war on terror, it's putting the PNAC agenda into action. Not only have they blatantly avoided chances to catch Bin Laden, but many reporters have written articles about top government officials holding the investigation in the dark, delaying them, and in some cases even protecting the terrorists. I'd post the actual document but I'm out of picture slots so you have to settle for the article, or research the rest yourself. Bush restricts 911 probesTop Taladan leader freed by US 911 study hindered Bush trying to hide 911 information 911 documents to sensitive for realse Bush discourages 911 investagations Times of India - Bush took FBI agents off the Trail of Bin Ladens Guardian UK - Agent Blasts FBI over 11 Sept 'cover up' Goes on and on ILLUMINATI NEW WORLD ORDER, THE CARD GAME Not only has PNAC directly stated that they want "helpful Pearl Harbor Attacks" in their official documents, but a card game entitled Illuminati New World Order, surfaced in 1995, which described the events of 911 with a shocking level of accuracy. The game INWO contained cards that said the words "Terrorist Nuke" at the top with an illustration of the Twin Towers being destroyed clearly shows tower one being demolished first. -This amazingly means, that this card predicted almost exactly what happened in New York City, six years before the actual event. It also identifies the villains as "Terrorist" at the top, which was not a term used nearly as much before 911, I don't know about the nuke part, although explosives were definitely in use on September 11th. -The explosion on the card is very close to the actual planes entry point. -Another interesting thing to note, is the illuminati pyramid to the left of tower two. This card is chilling. We know that the plane or the missile or whatever hit the pentagon, pierce through several walls puncturing holes through several of the steel reinforced concrete walls at the Pentagon, and actually exploded somewhere in the middle, Although it took out a wing, the rest of the pentagon was unscathed. Here is a flash of the Pentagon which accurately shows the damage very similar to this card. http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryho...ntagon.php#Main Funny how they got both of these elements of the attacks right and didn't make any mistakes six years before the attack, perhaps someone had advanced knowledge of it. On March 1st 1990 the Secret Service and Austin Police raided Steve Jackson, the maker of the games, office and confiscated four of his computers. Steve Jackson games fought back in court, but nearly suffered bankruptcy in the process. The charges were so bogus on the affavid that the judge awarded $50,000 as well as attorneys fees to SJG. It's strange the secret service would bother the manufacture of a role playing game, perhaps it was to stop them from releasing Illuminati New World Order. This is definitely not the strongest piece of evidence in this expose, but it does show prior knowledge, and is quite interesting. Here is the website of the game maker. http://www.sjgames.com/inwo/ And props to the Cutting Edge for bringing this to my attention, most of what I have articulated is paraphrased from their article on INWO. Although theirs gets a bit too weird for me, here is the original article and props to them once again. http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1753.cfm The really scary thing is, Home Land security = Police State Mechanism New Laws in the Works, are... Patriot Act: Old school now, Police and government officials do not need warrants to enter homes now, and can seize anything in your house, and not tell you they were there for 60 days. Also ambiguous language could allow for secret juryless trials and even executions for supposed "Terrorists". The definition of a terrorist as shown in the Patriot Act is one who commits "Any act that endangers human life, IN VIOLATION WITH ANY FEDERAL OR STATE LAW" So Jay walkers and pot dealers are terroist too. The Patriot Act has been used on many "domestic terrorists" for crimes such as being a gang member to writing a story here are some of the many examples, of new laws designateing all American citizens as enemeis of the state. Pot dealears are terrorists now. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/loca...uggling29m.html http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/349/creep.shtml http://vancouver.cbc.ca/regional/servlet/V...patriot20040805 http://talkleft.com/new_archives/007442.html People who write storries about Zombies, are terrorists too, http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.as...4&nav=EQlpWjof http://www.paxtonland.com/archives/2005/03/002907.php http://minorkey.deviantart.com/journal/4729752/ Gang members are terrorists too http://www.newstarget.com/003554.html http://www.terroranalysis.com/story/107777.html http://www.mydd.com/story/2004/12/30/23170/828 Who else? People who own Toy Stores are being visited by Home Land Security, why would they do that? http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=206591 http://www.stupidsecurity.com/article.pl?s...238&mode=thread http://www.stupidsecurity.com/article.pl?s...238&mode=thread Photographers have been arrested under the Patriot Act http://grep.law.harvard.edu/article.pl?sid...247&mode=thread FBI says Patriot Act used in Vegas strip club corruption probe http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/200...s/22521283.html http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/p...ptionprobe.html http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/.../515818511.html http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3540572/ http://news.neilrogers.com/news/arti...003111407.html Anti-terror laws increasingly used against common criminals http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...259EDT0480.DTL Shopkeeper deported from South Carolina under PATRIOT Act killed in Pakistan http://www.unknownnews.net/030929dead.html And there's even more examples of this here, I don't feel the need to post http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/octob...4patriotact.htm National ID cards, are also on the agenda which contain name, address the usual things, but also a finger and a retinal print, also rumors are circulating about a possible tracking chip inside of them. Homeland security had a fetish w/ RFID technology, and may use it to track us all w/ it through are cards. We have the National all Prescriptions reporting act, which makes all of your medical drug information accessible by Federal agencies, all of them in fact since their all allowed sharing information now. And the possible enactment of mandatory psychological testing for children and prescribing drugs without the parents consent. There are also talks of extending the program to the entire population. (Note: The Forced psychological testing bill has already been passed, search “new freedom initiative” for more info) AND the mother of them all of course, the Patriot Act II, while the first Patriot Act is just a destruction first, third, fourth and fifth amendments, Patriot Act II is a carbon copy of the powers that Hitler and Julius Caesar gave themselves Patriot Act II creates an expanded definition for domestic terrorism, And it allows any terrorism act to result in the death penalty, allows federal access to your bank, educational, and financial records, and makes conspiracy to commit terror a crime with out endangering any life what so ever. And amazingly makes information gathering illegal, in fact this post right here would go under the heading of "Info Terrorism" Patriot act II is enormously unpopular, and received massive amounts of bad press, so it's being passed in smaller increments, 10% of it has already been passed as HR2417, which allows for the pulling of all Financial and Medical transcripts. "Strengthening Patriot Act I is code for passing Patriot Act 2." There trying to do this now. Prominent 911 whistle blowers One might wonder, if all of this evidence which literally Swiss chesses the official story being in existence, why has there not been more of an outcry about it? Well, there has, famous people all over the world have been questioning and exposing the 911 cover-up. Micheal Meacher MP, former environmental advisor in the British Government - This War on Terrorism is Bogus former UK Government Minister speaks out about the standdown of NORAD on September 11th, PNAC and the pre-planned wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,...1036571,00.html http://www.prisonplanet.tv/audio/070204meacher.htm Andre Van Buelow Von Buelow is the former German Defense Minister and Minister of Technology. Von Buelow went public to say the US government carried out 9/11. His book is one of the bestsellers across Europe. http://www.prisonplanet.com/021104vonbuelow.html http://www.prisonplanet.com/020804vonbuelow.html Robert Wright, FBI special Agent, http://www.prisonplanet.com/FBI_agent_I_wa...error_probe.htm Cynthia Mckinney (Representative D-GA) Grills Rumsfeld on wargames going on the morning of 9/11, he does not deny http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/mckinn...ls_rumsfeld.htm Morgan Reynolds, (former chief economist for the Department of Labor during President George W. Bush's first term) says 911 Offical story is a fruad http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20...02755-6408r.htm http://www.lewrockwell.com/reynolds/reynolds7.html http://worldnetdaily.com/news/articl...TICLE_ID=44787 AND, Jimmy Walters the billionaire activist has gone so far as to, run commericals on televission, showing the evidence behinde building seven, and has also offered a$100,000 reward to any enginner who can proove that the towers fell the way they were said to have fallen in the offical story. http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/new...hp?storyid=1013 September 11 conspiracy theorist offers prize - Reuters
 Mentor P: 26,541 The Truth about 911 gutting the disinformation, LETS GET IT ON Looks like a thread for the round file.
 Emeritus Sci Advisor PF Gold P: 12,500 We'll see how your posts hold up to scrutiny, but a nice effort in any case.
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PF Gold
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 Quote by Evo Looks like a thread for the round file.
Wow, there's too much on the plate for me to tell.
 PF Gold P: 7,120 Anyone else feel like this is a Ronco commercial tryen to sell you more crap? I skimmed through and felt like I needed to get my credit card.... And havent we gone over this like 10 times...
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 Quote by Pengwuino Anyone else feel like this is a Ronco commercial tryen to sell you more crap? I skimmed through and felt like I needed to get my credit card.... And havent we gone over this like 10 times...
Yes, this is "same old, same old" stuff that has already been shown wrong.

Ivan this should be merged with the other conspiracy threads or deleted? It's already been discussed ad nauseum. I see nothing new here.

edit: Lots of what he's posted such as "Insider trading right before 911" has been publicly shown to be inaccurate, it was in another thread a few months ago. Lots of his links are in the current conspiracy thread.
 Emeritus Sci Advisor PF Gold P: 12,500 I did see some new information. I would like to give our newest member a chance to defend his or her case. Maybe once I have time to review in greater detail I will change my mind.
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 Quote by Ivan Seeking I did see some new information. I would like to give our newest member a chance to defend his or her case. Maybe once I have time to review in greater detail I will change my mind.
You're the boss.

His posts are so long, anything we haven't already discussed will probably be lost, should you prune it down to just the new stuff?

So much is bunk, like the "standown of NORAD"
 Emeritus Sci Advisor PF Gold P: 12,500 Consider this thread Custer's last stand. Take that as a hint conspiracy theorists.
 PF Gold P: 7,120 So who is firing the first shell?
 Mentor P: 22,294 I used the term "word salad" in the previous thread, and I'll use it again. Lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of nothing there, Sub_Zero. If you want a discussion, we'll take these things one at a time: pick your one strongest point and argue it. How about the the-buildings-fell-at-freefall-speeds point...? That's my personal favorite...
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 Quote by Evo So much is bunk, like the "standown of NORAD"
Well, the factually wrong stuff doesn't trouble me anywhere near as much as the my-intuition-is-better-than-an-engineering-degree crap. Its easier to debunk, imo. But hey - lets start an argument over which aspect of the crackpottery is the worst!
 Mentor P: 22,294 Ok, before I wrote the first post, I hadn't even skimmed the opening posts. Now that I have, whoa - its worse than I thought. It's not just a 9/11 conspiracy theory, its a mixture of half a dozen of the nuttiest of conspiracy theories out there.
 PF Gold P: 7,120 I'm sure I saw some NORAD crap in there so without further adieu... http://www.popularmechanics.com/scie...tml?page=3&c=y
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 First of all it’s important to say that fire has never once brought a steel structure down. Out of 100 uncontrolled fires in the last 50 years NEVER has fire collapsed a steel building, only earthquakes and explosives have been able to flatten these modern structures.
Okay, I'll take the first crack at this. Alright, lets say the government was responsible for the attacks. Then why did they bother putting explosives in the towers and crashing a plane into it? Even if a plane crash wasn't capable of destroying the towers, why have a plane hit it AND put bombs in it? Wouldn't a plane crashing into a building prompt just as much vigor against terrorism even if it didn't bring the entire building down?
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 Quote by Entropy Okay, I'll take the first crack at this. Alright, lets say the government was responsible for the attacks. Then why did they bother putting explosives in the towers and crashing a plane into it? Even if a plane crash wasn't capable of destroying the towers, why have a plane hit it AND put bombs in it? Wouldn't a plane crashing into a building prompt just as much vigor against terrorism even if it didn't bring the entire building down?
Although it can be said that having the 2 largest towers actually collapsing could be a better motivator for war in the publics mind... why in gods name would they intentionally collapse the other WTC buildings as well? If there was a conspiracy, it would have made no sense to bring down the other smaller towers as well for many reasons. 1) No one will notice htem compared to the 2 largest tower to add to the "effect". 2) Why wait 8 hours for the rest? Thats 8 whole hours that more and more cameras and people and experts can arrive on the scene to see signs of a controlled demolition on the smaller tower (7 i believe) if it did occur.

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