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Is natural selection driven by intelligence? |
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| Apr10-06, 01:59 PM | #52 |
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Is natural selection driven by intelligence?As for "understanding", i dont know what rade or u are talking about when speaking of this. All ive read here is that there seems to exist the idea that "understanding = multiple neurons" and "intelligence = multiple neurons". However the definitions ive shown do not speak in terms of neurons. |
| Apr11-06, 10:28 AM | #53 |
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I believe that the statement is false,
first of all because not always do the most intelligent induviduals survive, and second, because even if an intelligent individual survives in spite of a less intelligent one, the intelligence will probably not be transmitted to the heirs of the "clever boy/girl" (ALTHOUGH the question of hereditary intelligence is dusputed, I personally take the Freudistic point of view) |
| Apr11-06, 05:32 PM | #54 |
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The simplest organisms have reactions that are entirely comparable to switches. So do many studied functions in our brains. Are you positing some miraculous "life force" that distinguishes a switch mechanism found in a living organism from a similar one made of hardware? |
| Apr12-06, 09:41 AM | #55 |
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I think what the confusion here is is that "intelligence" really is only a complex series of switches and so one could depict intelligence as existing in all forms of matter in that all forms of matter respond to stimulus or "cause".
However "intelligence" is a concept concieved by humans to describe the complex interactions of neurons in the highly developed brain of the animal "homo sapien sapien". It also describes similar functions in other mammals such as the ape family and the dolphin and whale. Even birds show some intelligence in their use of tools to obtain food (ie: using a stick to coax grubs out of a tree). The reason we make such a distinction between the less complex "switches' in bacterial molecular make-up and the the more comlex interacting switches of the afore mentioned mammals is because we like to distinquish between levels of complexity for our own purposes. Thus, we classify some sets of molecules as intelligent and some as not intelligent. In the end we must admit that all living and non-living things are comprised, at one level, of the basic unit of "molecules" that act and react in various ways to various causes. What we say about these structures has no bearing upon what they actually are or are doing. This reminds us of Dr. Bohr's statement where science only represents what we can say about nature... not what nature actually is. To condense what Dr. Bohr is saying one would only need to say "get over yourselves". |
| Apr12-06, 12:24 PM | #56 |
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| Apr12-06, 02:35 PM | #57 |
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? Don't mind me, I gave up maintaining any delusion of intelligence to make room for what might actually be going on in the world. Its kind of cool to speculate that we don't know a bl**dy thing about this universe because that's when you're open to learning something about it. As soon as you fill your head with ideas about how things "really work"... there's no room for the truth. Hasta Luego me amigas y amigos! |
| Apr12-06, 05:26 PM | #58 |
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| Apr12-06, 05:52 PM | #59 |
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| Apr13-06, 03:03 PM | #60 |
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This paper below takes it all even a step further, by claiming that the bacterial intelligence selects/designs its genome. But this is not what im claiming here in this topic. |
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