SUBSET K of elements in a group with finite distinct distinct conjugates

In summary, WTS, given a subgroup K with finite distinct conjugates, we need to show that the product of any two elements in K is also in K. The inverse of an element is known to be finite and distinct, making it easier to prove closure under group operation. However, there may be confusion between elements and sets in the given problem. To clarify, the set of all conjugates of an element a is finite, not the conjugates themselves. Therefore, we must show that if the sets of conjugates of both a and b are finite, then the set of conjugates of ab is also finite. This can be proven by considering the general form of conjugates for any element x in the group.
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WTS, is that such set is a subgroup.

I need to show closure under group operation and inverse.

I can do the inverse which is usually the hardest part, but I'm stuck on the grp op.

So let a in K and b in K, both have finite distinct conjugates. Their conjugates are in the group too. WTS is that ab in K too.

if a, b in K then xax-1 = c in K and yay-1

consider xy(ab)(xy)-1 note since xax-1 and yay-1 are finite and distinct then x and y are finite and distinct hence xy and its inverse is finite

hence xy(ab)(xy)-1 in K

what do you think?
 
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it looks like you're confusing elements and sets.

the SET of all conjugates of a {xax-1: x in G} is finite, not the conjugates themselves.

so you want to show that if the set of conjugates of a is finite, and the set of conjugates of b is finite, so is the set of conjugates of ab.

it might be helpful to note that if x is ANY element of G:

x(ab)x-1 = (xax-1)(xbx-1).
 

1. What is a subset?

A subset is a set that contains elements from another set. It is denoted by the symbol ⊆ and is read as "is a subset of".

2. What is a group with finite distinct conjugates?

A group with finite distinct conjugates is a mathematical group in which each element has a finite number of distinct conjugates. In other words, for every element in the group, there are only a finite number of ways to rearrange its elements and still be considered part of the group.

3. What does 'K' represent in "SUBSET K of elements in a group with finite distinct distinct conjugates"?

In this context, 'K' represents a specific number or quantity of elements that make up the subset in question.

4. How is the subset K determined in a group with finite distinct distinct conjugates?

The subset K is determined by selecting a specific number or quantity of elements from the group that meet the criteria of being finite and distinct conjugates.

5. What is the significance of studying subsets in a group with finite distinct distinct conjugates?

Studying subsets in a group with finite distinct distinct conjugates allows for a deeper understanding of the structure and properties of the group. It can also help in solving problems and making predictions about the behavior of the group as a whole.

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