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DaveC426913
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Simple question:
Do you believe everyone who can do so should get vaccinated, or no?
Do you believe everyone who can do so should get vaccinated, or no?
DaveC426913 said:Simple question:
Do you believe everyone who can do so should get vaccinated, or no?
It's over-hyped - a knee-jerk reaction. It's just the flu. Hundreds of people die every year from flu yet they are not hyped like this.Evo said:I'd like people that vote no to say why.
I absolutely agree that this flu is over hyped, see my posts here https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=348634DaveC426913 said:It's over-hyped - a knee-jerk reaction. It's just the flu. Hundreds of people die every year from flu yet they are not hyped like this.
DaveC426913 said:It's over-hyped - a knee-jerk reaction. It's just the flu. Hundreds of people die every year from flu yet they are not hyped like this.
Isn't the risk of problems from the flu actually higher than the risk of serious adverse reactions to the vaccine?Moonbear said:To me, the risk of an adverse reaction to the vaccination (and there is always a risk) needs to be carefully weighed against the risk of developing the illness or serious complications from it..
Evo said:Isn't the risk of problems from the flu actually higher than the risk of serious adverse reactions to the vaccine?
jimmysnyder said:I'm getting the vaccine. I figure at my age what's the chance I'll become autistic?
GeorginaS said:And, we'll all get H1N1 vaccination too. It just got approved in Canada this past week, and they're asking healthy people to hold off until high-risk people get their shots first.
Is she afraid they'll become even more autistic? The vaccine-autism link is so well known to be a deliberate fraud that the only people still pushing it are those whose 15 minutes are up and they can't let go.Moonbear said:Actually, I have a friend with autistic children who is really struggling with whether to get them the vaccine or not.
GeorginaS said:But should you get it? My GP always argued, no, that perfectly healthy people should not. He was high-risk being a GP and all, and he didn't get flu shots, because he wanted his body to develop its own immunities to the bugs. He didn't ever catch the flu in the eighteen years I've known him.
Moonbear said:If you work in a healthcare setting, around children, have any susceptibility of respiratory illnesses (asthma, smoker, past history of pneumonia after flu), then definitely get vaccinated. If you are otherwise healthy, it's optional, and might be best to leave the vaccine available to those who need it more. ...
Poor pigs...http://www.capitalpress.com/orewash/TH-h1n1-102309-infobox"
Updated: Saturday, October 24, 2009 11:03 AM
H1N1 in pigs was inevitable, producers say
Industry reiterates that meat even from diseased swine is safe
By TIM HEARDEN
Capital Press
Now that the H1N1 virus has been detected in at least one pig shown at the Minnesota State Fair, the U.S. pork industry is taking the development in stride -- and hoping everyone else will, too.
Among the 28 confirmed cases that have died, 25 (89%) had underlying chronic medical conditions reported,...
Among cases that are currently or have previously been hospitalized, a number of underlying medical conditions have been reported, including but not limited to diabetes, cardiovascular conditions, renal conditions and pulmonary conditions.
Moonbear said:I just don't have a lot of confidence in the seasonal vaccines, partly because they are guessing every year, and partly because they need to give it every year. It seems that if you've gotten a bout of flu, you have immunity for a long time, yet the vaccine doesn't seem to provide that long term immunity that people need to keep getting it annually. With the swine flu vaccine, at least they know it's protecting against the actual virus going around, not just a guess at what one might go around.
NeoDevin said:I would recommend getting a new GP. One who uses evidence and science based medicine, and doesn't put his patients at risk.
That's true, it's the same with elderly people who don't have a well-working immune system: they don't build up long-term immunity with one shot. The Netherlands is going to give these immunocompromised groups a second 'booster' shot of the vaccine, because otherwise you might as well not vaccinate them at all.Moonbear said:I have to really think long and hard about how a vaccine would work in someone with a suppressed immune system, though, because I would think the immunosuppression would prevent the vaccine from doing anything.
Evo said:Yes, you should get vaccintaed. I get vaccinated every year and do not get sick.
Like I said in another thread, even if you personally don't care if you get the flu, you could infect someone that could die from it.
My employer offers free vaccinations in our office evey year, and no one gets sick. this year, due to the media hype, that had to order thousands of extra vaccines because they maxed out on the appointments so quickly.
I'd like people that vote no to say why.
Are you afraid of getting vaccinated, and if yes, why are you afraid?
I do, but I don't care enough to take the time out of my day to do it.DaveC426913 said:Simple question:
Do you believe everyone who can do so should get vaccinated, or no?
magpies said:If the virus mutates enough the vac will have been worthless I believe anyone know if this is correct or not?
Moonbear said:As I'm telling my students, if they get sick, the first thing they need to do is get better. If they feel better but aren't cleared to return to classes yet, and want to get caught up from home, I'm helping them get make-up work by email. If necessary, I'll give them incompletes so they have extra time to catch up if they are out for an extended time and can't catch up before the end of the semester (though, I think they are getting more studying done while stuck home in bed than when they are well and running around socializing).
DaveC426913 said:It's over-hyped - a knee-jerk reaction. It's just the flu. Hundreds of people die every year from flu yet they are not hyped like this.