Solid Propellant Burn Rate Sensitivity

In summary, the conversation discusses the impact of air density on the performance of model rockets powered by solid propellant engines. The speaker explains that the difference in atmospheric pressure between an elevation of 2550 feet and sea level is not significant compared to the chamber pressure, which is what determines the burn rate and thrust of the propellant. They also mention that rocket performance is better at higher altitudes due to less drag and that chamber pressure and reaction rate are not affected by oxygen in the air. They also discuss the ideal thrust equation and how various factors, such as chamber pressure and exit area, affect thrust. Overall, they conclude that the difference in atmospheric pressure between 2550 feet and sea level should not significantly impact the performance of the model
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good_ken
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I have been flying some model rockets powered by commercially available solid propellant engines. I have been flying at an elevation of 2550 above sea level. I am headed to a competition next week and will be flying near sea level.

The air density will change approximately 5% due to the elevation change. Will this air density change affect the burn rate of the propellant the same way it would an air breathing engine (ie more thrust at sea level)?

thanks
 
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What does your intuition tell you?
 
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My instinct tells me that the difference in atmospheric pressure won't be significant compared to the chamber pressure, which is what burn rate (thrust) depends on.
 
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good_ken said:
My instinct tells me that the difference in atmospheric pressure won't be significant compared to the chamber pressure, which is what burn rate (thrust) depends on.
Well the chamber pressure depends on the burn rate. One is correct that atmospheric pressure is much less than atmospheric pressure.

In solid rockets the fuel and oxidizer are mixed, so oxygen in air has no effect on the combustion process. Once the chemical reaction initiates - it goes.

Rocket performance improves as atmospheric pressure decreases, which is why one will see performance numbers for sea level and low pressure or vacuum of space. Rocket motors perform better in space.

Also, drag increases as atmospheric density increases. At higher altitudes, the same rocket can fly higher (with respect to its starting point) than it would taking off at sea level.

So, at higher altitudes with lower air density, rockets have better motor performance and less drag.
 
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Astronuc said:
Well the chamber pressure depends on the burn rate. One is correct that atmospheric pressure is much less than atmospheric pressure.

In solid rockets the fuel and oxidizer are mixed, so oxygen in air has no effect on the combustion process. Once the chemical reaction initiates - it goes.

Rocket performance improves as atmospheric pressure decreases, which is why one will see performance numbers for sea level and low pressure or vacuum of space. Rocket motors perform better in space.

Also, drag increases as atmospheric density increases. At higher altitudes, the same rocket can fly higher (with respect to its starting point) than it would taking off at sea level.

So, at higher altitudes with lower air density, rockets have better motor performance and less drag.

That makes sense. We have calculated a 5% increase in drag by going to sea level, so that is accounted for. It was engine that we didn't have a feel for.
 
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Do you know what the chamber pressure is for the solid rocket motor? Anyway, the differential pressure should be insignificant between 2550 ft and sea level, so drag is the biggest factor.
 
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Astronuc said:
Rocket performance improves as atmospheric pressure decreases, which is why one will see performance numbers for sea level and low pressure or vacuum of space. Rocket motors perform better in space.
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Also, drag [..]

Really? You mean, even regardless of drag due to increased air density (say, consider some bench-mounted thrust test) higher atmospheric pressure will slightly decrease performance? (If anything, I would have thought chamber pressure and reaction rate would go up..)
 
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cesiumfrog said:
Really? You mean, even regardless of drag due to increased air density (say, consider some bench-mounted thrust test) higher atmospheric pressure will slightly decrease performance? (If anything, I would have thought chamber pressure and reaction rate would go up..)
If you look at the thrust for most applications, it is degraded at lower altitudes. Mostly because at lower altitudes the backpressure on the nozzle is greater. The ideal thrust equation is

[tex]F = A_t P_1 \sqrt{\frac{2 \gamma^2}{\gamma-1}\left (\frac{2}{\gamma+1}\right)^{\frac{\gamma+1}{\gamma-1}}\left[1-\left(\frac{P_2}{P_1}\right)\right]^{(\frac{\gamma-1}{\gamma})} }+(P_2-P_3)A_2[/tex]

Where
[tex]F[/tex] = Thrust
[tex]P_1[/tex] = Chamber Pressure
[tex]\gamma[/tex] = Specific Heat Ratio
[tex]A_t[/tex] = Throat Area
[tex]P_2[/tex] = Pressure at the exit plane of the nozzle
[tex]P_3[/tex] = Ambient Pressure
[tex]A_2[/tex] = Exit Area
 
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In addition to what FredGarvin wrote, think about -

What causes 'chamber pressure' and what controls the reaction rate.
 

1. What is solid propellant burn rate sensitivity?

Solid propellant burn rate sensitivity is a measure of how the burning rate of a solid propellant changes in response to various external factors such as pressure, temperature, and composition. It is an important property to consider in the design and performance of solid rocket motors.

2. How is solid propellant burn rate sensitivity measured?

Solid propellant burn rate sensitivity is typically measured by conducting a series of small-scale tests with varying conditions and measuring the resulting burn rates. These tests can be performed in a lab setting using specialized equipment such as a strand burner.

3. What factors can affect the burn rate sensitivity of solid propellants?

There are several factors that can affect the burn rate sensitivity of solid propellants, including pressure, temperature, composition, and aging. Changes in any of these factors can alter the burning rate of the propellant, which can impact the overall performance of the rocket motor.

4. Why is it important to understand solid propellant burn rate sensitivity?

Understanding solid propellant burn rate sensitivity is crucial in the design and development of rocket motors. It allows engineers to optimize the performance of the propellant and ensure its stability and reliability during operation. It also helps in predicting and controlling the thrust and burn time of the rocket.

5. Can solid propellant burn rate sensitivity be controlled?

Yes, solid propellant burn rate sensitivity can be controlled to a certain extent through careful selection of propellant composition and additives. However, it is also affected by external factors such as pressure and temperature, which may not always be controllable. Therefore, it is important to thoroughly test and characterize the propellant under various conditions to understand and mitigate any potential burn rate sensitivities.

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