Wave eq., two real fields with interaction, wave speed.

In summary, the conversation discusses two real fields, R(x,t) and S(x,t), satisfying the 3-dimensional wave equation, with an interaction potential between them represented by V = m(R-S)^2. The motion of the fields can be either symmetric or anti-symmetric, and it is suggested that there will be mass-less modes when the fields are symmetric and massive modes when they are anti-symmetric. The example of two superimposed strings with a potential V proportional to the area between them squared is also mentioned. However, the concept of mass in this context may be replaced with attenuation (constant) since it is a result of quantization. Additionally, the wave equation should be relativistically invariant or covariant if R and S
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Say we have two real fields, R(x,t) and S(x,t), which satisfy the 3-dimensional wave equation. Now let there be an interaction potential between the fields R and S of the form, V = m(R-S)^2.

Suppose the "motion" of the fields is either symmetric or anti-symmetric, that is R(x,t) = + or - S(x,t).

Then is it true we will have mass-less modes when R and S are symmetric and massive modes when R and S are anti-symmetric?

A one-dimensional example, two superimposed strings with a potential V proportional to the area between the strings squared?

Thank you for any help.
 
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Spinnor said:
Say we have two real fields, R(x,t) and S(x,t), which satisfy the 3-dimensional wave equation. Now let there be an interaction potential between the fields R and S of the form, V = m(R-S)^2.

Suppose the "motion" of the fields is either symmetric or anti-symmetric, that is R(x,t) = + or - S(x,t).

Then is it true we will have mass-less modes when R and S are symmetric and massive modes when R and S are anti-symmetric?
I believe that is "correct". However, mass is a result of quantization. If they're just classical fields, then I believe you should replace "mass" with "attenuation (constant)". Oh, and "the wave equation" should be relativistically invariant (or covariant if R and S have internal structure).
 
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I would like to first clarify that the term "mass-less modes" refers to modes of oscillation with zero rest mass, such as electromagnetic waves. In this context, the terms "symmetric" and "anti-symmetric" most likely refer to the symmetry of the interaction potential, rather than the motion of the fields.

Based on the given information, it is true that when the fields R and S are symmetric (i.e. the interaction potential is symmetric), there will be mass-less modes. This is because in this case, the potential V = m(R-S)^2 will be equal to zero, and the wave equation will reduce to the standard wave equation, which describes mass-less modes.

On the other hand, when the fields R and S are anti-symmetric (i.e. the interaction potential is anti-symmetric), there will be massive modes. This is because the potential V = m(R-S)^2 will have a non-zero value, leading to the appearance of a mass term in the wave equation. This can be seen in the one-dimensional example of two superimposed strings with a potential V proportional to the area between the strings squared. In this case, the anti-symmetric potential will lead to the appearance of a mass term in the wave equation, resulting in massive modes of oscillation.

In summary, the symmetry of the interaction potential between the fields R and S does affect the type of modes that can be observed. When the potential is symmetric, mass-less modes will be present, while an anti-symmetric potential will lead to the appearance of massive modes. This is due to the different forms of the wave equation that result from the different potential symmetries.
 

1. What is a wave equation?

A wave equation is a mathematical equation that describes the propagation of a wave through space and time. It is used to model various physical phenomena, such as sound, light, and water waves.

2. What are real fields?

Real fields are physical fields that exist in the real world and can be measured. They can include fields such as temperature, electric fields, and magnetic fields.

3. What is interaction between two real fields?

Interaction between two real fields occurs when the two fields affect each other's behavior. This can happen through various mechanisms, such as the transfer of energy or the creation of new fields.

4. How does wave speed affect the interaction between two real fields?

The wave speed refers to how quickly a wave travels through a medium. In the context of two interacting real fields, the wave speed can impact the strength and nature of their interaction. For example, a higher wave speed may lead to a more intense interaction between the fields.

5. What are some real-world applications of the wave equation with two interacting real fields?

The wave equation with two interacting real fields has many practical applications, including in the fields of acoustics, optics, and electromagnetism. It is used to model and understand phenomena such as sound propagation, light refraction, and electromagnetic radiation.

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