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Nov512, 05:36 PM

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Hello All,
I have some basic damping related questions that I am hoping you all can shed some light on or suggest some resources on to someone who has taken a few undergraduate level physics courses. i.) Can someone give me an intuitive explanation as to why linear damping (underdamped case) of a harmonic oscillator shortens the period? ii.) Must an oscillatory system with any kind of damping (including nonlinear damping) have a shorter period/higher frequency than the undamped system? iii.) Why does damping cause a broader peak in the power spectrum of the oscillatory time series (please try to give me an intuitive reason not a purely mathematical one)? Thank you in advance Mudbone 



#2
Nov512, 06:03 PM

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Increasing the damping lengthens the period (lowers the frequency). The effect is very small unless the damping is very heavy; for example even if the damping halves the oscillation amplitude every cycle, the period is lengthened by less than 1 per cent.
Why does damping lengthen the period? Well, a handwaving explanation would be along the lines that damping impedes the motion... Your third question is perhaps the easiest to answer. Far from resonance the amplitude is low, so the speed of motion is low, so the damping forces are smaller. Thus extra damping has less effect on the amplitude far from resonance than it does nearer resonance, when the body is (on average) moving faster. So the resonance curve is depressed more in the middle than at the edges, that is, it is broadened. 



#3
Nov512, 06:31 PM

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If you add some damping (of any type), you take energy out of the system. So if you start with the same amount of PE as the undamped system, by the time the PE has reduced to 0 the amount of KE in the system is smaller. So the velocity is smalller. So the system takes longer to get to the position where the PE = 0. So the frequency is lower. 



#4
Nov512, 07:14 PM

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Damping: Three Basic QuestionsThe damped oscillation is not a pure sine but is exponentially decreasing. How can you get that? One way would be to add many sine waves with various frequencies and amplitudes. These are represented by the wide peak in the frequency spectrum. 



#5
Nov612, 03:00 AM

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AlephZero. Got it! You're considering a quarter cycle at a time. Nice! [I was going to object that although the mean speed is less, so too is the amplitude, but if we consider each quarter of a cycle at a time, the objection disappears.]




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Nov612, 03:44 AM

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For linearly damped oscillator, the net effect is increased period. I am not convinced, on this argument alone, that this is true for a general case. That said, I cannot come up with an example where period is not increased, so there is probably a way to prove this for general case. 


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