Exploring Different Forms of Polynomials in Two Variables

In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility of factorizing a polynomial of two variables into a specific form. It is mentioned that the form of the polynomial can be determined by writing it in standard form and calculating the discriminant. It is also suggested that the cross terms can be eliminated by rotating the coordinate system and using the vanishing of the cross term coefficient as a constraint. However, it is concluded that there is no general solution for factorizing the polynomial into the desired form, as it involves solving six equations with six unknowns. Alternative suggestions, such as using cylinders in (p,q,r) space, are also mentioned.
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Jhenrique
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If a polynomial of 1 variable, for example: P(x) = ax²+bx+c, can be written as P(x) = a(x-x1)(x-x2), so a polynomial of 2 variables like: Q(x,y) = ax²+bxy+cy²+dx+ey+f can be written of another form?
 
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You have a quadratic in two variables; if you plot it on the X-Y plane it will be a circle, ellipse, hyperbola, parabola, or a pair of lines. You can discover which by writing it in standard form and then calculating the discriminant:
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/QuadraticCurveDiscriminant.html

Once you know the form you can rotate the coordinate system so that the cross terms disappear; use the vanishing of the cross term coefficient as the constraint.

Then put it into "standard form" for the particular geometric figure.

For a circle it will be (u-h)^2/r^2 + (v-g)^2/r^2 = 1, and similar for the other cases.
 
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Actually, I'm asking if is possible to factorize the polynomial Q(x,y)!?
 
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[tex]
(px + qy + r)(sx + ty + u) = psx^2 + (pt + qs)xy + qty^2 + (pu + rs)x + (qu + rt)y + ru
[/tex]

That gives you six equations in six unknowns.

There is no general solution, because you can pretty quickly eliminate [itex]s = a/p[/itex], [itex]t = c/q[/itex] and [itex]u = f/r[/itex] to end up with [tex]
cp^2 + aq^2 = bpq \\
fp^2 + ar^2 = dpr \\
fq^2 + cr^2 = eqr.[/tex] These are cylinders in [itex](p,q,r)[/itex] space whose cross-sections are conic sections in the [itex](p,q)[/itex], [itex](p,r)[/itex] and [itex](q,r)[/itex] planes respectively. There is no reason why these should all intersect (it's pretty easy to arrange three such cylinders of circular cross-section so that they don't intersect), and if they do all intersect they may do so at multiple points.
 
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pasmith said:
[tex]
(px + qy + r)(sx + ty + u) = psx^2 + (pt + qs)xy + qty^2 + (pu + rs)x + (qu + rt)y + ru
[/tex]

That gives you six equations in six unknowns.

There is no general solution, because you can pretty quickly eliminate [itex]s = a/p[/itex], [itex]t = c/q[/itex] and [itex]u = f/r[/itex] to end up with [tex]
cp^2 + aq^2 = bpq \\
fp^2 + ar^2 = dpr \\
fq^2 + cr^2 = eqr.[/tex] These are cylinders in [itex](p,q,r)[/itex] space whose cross-sections are conic sections in the [itex](p,q)[/itex], [itex](p,r)[/itex] and [itex](q,r)[/itex] planes respectively. There is no reason why these should all intersect (it's pretty easy to arrange three such cylinders of circular cross-section so that they don't intersect), and if they do all intersect they may do so at multiple points.

Nice!

I thought in something like this:
##Q(x,y) = A(x-a)(x-b) + B(x-c)(y-d) + C(y-e)(y-f)##

Do you have more ideias??
 

1. What is a polynomial of 2 variables?

A polynomial of 2 variables is an algebraic expression that contains two variables, usually represented by x and y, and can be written as a sum of terms where each term is a constant multiplied by a power of the variables.

2. How do you determine the degree of a polynomial of 2 variables?

The degree of a polynomial of 2 variables is determined by the highest power of the variables that appears in any term of the expression. For example, the polynomial 3x^2y^3 has a degree of 5 (2+3).

3. What is the difference between a monomial and a binomial?

A monomial is a polynomial with only one term, while a binomial is a polynomial with two terms. For example, 5x is a monomial and 3x^2 + 2x is a binomial.

4. Can a polynomial of 2 variables have a negative exponent?

Yes, a polynomial of 2 variables can have a negative exponent. This means that the variable is being raised to a negative power, which is equivalent to taking the reciprocal of the variable raised to the positive power. For example, x^-2 is equivalent to 1/x^2.

5. What is the difference between a polynomial of 2 variables and a polynomial of 1 variable?

The main difference between a polynomial of 2 variables and a polynomial of 1 variable is the number of variables present. A polynomial of 1 variable only contains one variable, while a polynomial of 2 variables contains two variables. Additionally, the degree of a polynomial of 2 variables can be different for each variable, while the degree of a polynomial of 1 variable is the same for all terms.

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