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Peter Higgs is going to get a Nobel prize for physics, since Higgs boson's existence was confirmed in the experiments in CERN.
But I do have some questions:
I read the following, but I'm not qualified to say if this is true or not, so I'm asking you for help, and if the following statement is crackpotism or not:
I found this:
Even if the Higgs mechanism incorporated into the Standard Model does correctly describe the properties of the particle mediating the decay of fundamental particle quantum mass fields, that does not prove that the Higgs field based mechanism of imparting rest mass to fundamental particles is correct - only that the mechanism of its dissipation upon particle disintegration is properly described and correct.
Is this true or false?
Also I found on CERN's own website:
http://home.web.cern.ch/about/updates/2013/03/new-results-indicate-new-particle-higgs-boson
"To determine if this is the Standard Model Higgs boson, the collaborations have, for example, to measure precisely the rate at which the boson decays into other particles and compare the results to the predictions. The detection of the boson is a very rare event – it takes around 1 trillion (10^12) proton-proton collisions for each observed event. To characterize all of the decay modes will require much more data from the LHC."
So what do you think? I actually thought that story with Higgs boson is over, I mean Peter Higgs will have Nobel prize for this discovery and confirmation.
I do not understand what else should be experimented when it comes to Higgs boson?
Also, supersymmetry has not been proven yet:
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/aug/06/higgs-boson-physics-hits-buffers-discovery
Are there going to be any problems for Standard Model theory since there is no any confirmation for the existence of supersymmetry which seems to be very elusive, and what would this mean for Standard Model theory, which is he most successful to this day?
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/god-particle-higgs-boson-year/story?id=19574423
"CERN is looking to do more with the Higgs boson than simply confirm its existence. Lincoln says that there's a very large discrepancy that still needs to be addressed. The Higgs-boson-like particle observed at the LHC a year ago has about 100 trillion times less than energy than what the Standard Model predicts.
Unfortunately, he will have to wait awhile until he sees that issue resolved. The LHC is currently turned off for maintenance issues and is not scheduled to be turned back on until late 2014 at the earliest."
I don't understand this part:
The Higgs-boson-like particle observed at the LHC a year ago has about 100 trillion times less than energy than what the Standard Model predicts.
What does this mean?
That Higgs-boson particle is not what they thought it would be since its mass unexpectedly; is so small, actually to small according to this?
They also say that: "Since last July, physicists have had their hands full, analyzing a newer and bigger set of data from CERN's Large Hadron Collider (LHC), the world's most powerful particle accelerator. It was the LHC that first provided researchers with evidence of the Higgs boson's existence, and the new data fits in line with Higgs's theory and provides even more evidence that CERN has truly found the Higgs boson."
I thought this story is over and that Higgs boson is definitely 100% proven, I didn't expect this, I'm confused, the way they say this is like they are not still sure or over with experiments which definitely proves the existence of Higgs boson.
Big thanks to all.
But I do have some questions:
I read the following, but I'm not qualified to say if this is true or not, so I'm asking you for help, and if the following statement is crackpotism or not:
I found this:
Even if the Higgs mechanism incorporated into the Standard Model does correctly describe the properties of the particle mediating the decay of fundamental particle quantum mass fields, that does not prove that the Higgs field based mechanism of imparting rest mass to fundamental particles is correct - only that the mechanism of its dissipation upon particle disintegration is properly described and correct.
Is this true or false?
Also I found on CERN's own website:
http://home.web.cern.ch/about/updates/2013/03/new-results-indicate-new-particle-higgs-boson
"To determine if this is the Standard Model Higgs boson, the collaborations have, for example, to measure precisely the rate at which the boson decays into other particles and compare the results to the predictions. The detection of the boson is a very rare event – it takes around 1 trillion (10^12) proton-proton collisions for each observed event. To characterize all of the decay modes will require much more data from the LHC."
So what do you think? I actually thought that story with Higgs boson is over, I mean Peter Higgs will have Nobel prize for this discovery and confirmation.
I do not understand what else should be experimented when it comes to Higgs boson?
Also, supersymmetry has not been proven yet:
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/aug/06/higgs-boson-physics-hits-buffers-discovery
Are there going to be any problems for Standard Model theory since there is no any confirmation for the existence of supersymmetry which seems to be very elusive, and what would this mean for Standard Model theory, which is he most successful to this day?
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/god-particle-higgs-boson-year/story?id=19574423
"CERN is looking to do more with the Higgs boson than simply confirm its existence. Lincoln says that there's a very large discrepancy that still needs to be addressed. The Higgs-boson-like particle observed at the LHC a year ago has about 100 trillion times less than energy than what the Standard Model predicts.
Unfortunately, he will have to wait awhile until he sees that issue resolved. The LHC is currently turned off for maintenance issues and is not scheduled to be turned back on until late 2014 at the earliest."
I don't understand this part:
The Higgs-boson-like particle observed at the LHC a year ago has about 100 trillion times less than energy than what the Standard Model predicts.
What does this mean?
That Higgs-boson particle is not what they thought it would be since its mass unexpectedly; is so small, actually to small according to this?
They also say that: "Since last July, physicists have had their hands full, analyzing a newer and bigger set of data from CERN's Large Hadron Collider (LHC), the world's most powerful particle accelerator. It was the LHC that first provided researchers with evidence of the Higgs boson's existence, and the new data fits in line with Higgs's theory and provides even more evidence that CERN has truly found the Higgs boson."
I thought this story is over and that Higgs boson is definitely 100% proven, I didn't expect this, I'm confused, the way they say this is like they are not still sure or over with experiments which definitely proves the existence of Higgs boson.
Big thanks to all.
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