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Has anybody gone to see the movie? What did you think about it? I thought it was an excellent movie of persuasion, although some of the facts seemed wrong to me, and there were a few disappointments with the movie.
The movie starts off with non sequitorish behaviour. At 57 s, he shows a picture of the Apollo 8 mission to the moon. At 2:37 he shows calving glaciers, then pollution, and a from-space picture of Hurricane Katrinia
I'll admit the first disappointment was most hardhitting. I don't know what I was thinking. After the introduction, the first thing he said was "I am not going to spend much time on the science of it." Did I expect otherwise? I guess I did because my mouth dropped open. Of course then he went into a little animation explaining the greenhouse effect. It showed sunlight going in then leaving—without the greenhouse effect. Then, with the greenhouse effect—sunlight going in, and bouncing off of the ground, but most of it reflecting off of the atmosphere back to the ground. Interestingly, he showed a little cartoon to appeal to other audiences that broke down the situation well.
First a little girl's ice cream cone melts suddenly and she starts to cry. A man comes over (I believe modeled after the one from The Twilight Zone). Little Suzie (or whatever her name as) asks him why her ice cream melted. "Global Warming!" The cartoon goes on for a few minutes showing greenhouse effect in a completely unbiased way.
Light comes from the sun. The light is illustrated by a chipper, self-confident piece of fire/light that is in the form of a person. He is walking to the Earth through space with a huge grin on his face. However "nasty greenhouse gases" are portrayed as green blobules like amoebas, and are thugs. When the innocent ray of light gets to the Earth, he gets the **** beat out of him by a few greenhouse gases, his money is stolen, and the sunlight lays on top of the Earth, dead. More and more sunlight comes, the greenhouse gases mug all of them, until the entire Earth is covered in their stinking, rotting, dead corpses. "Their rotting corpses heat the Earth."
Secondly of disappointments, I was surprised to find that a lot of the movie was about him. That's right, about him, not AGW. I guess its his movie and he can do whatever he wants with it.
There was a pretty cool graph that was a hybrid of The Hockeystick (http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/USAToday060602.jpg ), and http://www.mwnx.net/users/mac/Climatology/temp%20and%20CO2%20since%20400,000%20vostokjpg.jpg , quite obviously correlating temperature and CO2 using Vostok ice core data with timespan 0-400,000 yrs (he may have used a 650,000 yr. one, I'm not sure). One of the climaxes of the movie was when he got on some kind of elevator to show the CO2 hockeystick at its current time. Then, following a linear regression, the projected CO2 goes up and up and up off the chart way above where the temperature is.
At 46 min and 2 seconds, he talks about polar bears drowning, with a helpful illustration of a polar bear working very well entirely on pathos.
Immediately after this Al Gore explains how fresh meltwater from the last ice age caused floods in the North Atlantic that caused thermohaline circulation to completely shut down. My immediate reaction to this is to think "no freaking way," but I have not read anything about this.
He showed a graph concerning biodiversity that was pretty interesting. At a southern Switzerland station he graphed the amount of frost days going back some years, and superimposed the amount of invasive species coming into Switzerland. The correlation was astonishing.
It basically looked like this:
He started talking about his enemies, the anti-global warmers. All I remember are some quotes I wrote down.
"There is a consensus of global warming."
"[Skeptics'] objective is to reposition global warming as a theory rather than fact."
(in a video of TheDr. Hanson): "We already know everything we need to know [to stop global warming]"
"We have solved an environmental problem before—the stratospheric ozone hole."
http://junkscience.com/Ozone/ozone_seasonal.htm
"This is a moral issue."
Can't we just stick with science? "http://www.crichton-official.com/fear/fear_main.shtml ! Carl Sagan wrote that we should get out of "the demon-haunted world" of our past.
Here are three other things he said that might start a conversation.
"Soil evaporation increases dramatically with temperature."
"Species lost is going up over 1000x faster than current rate."
"Scientists could predict precisely how much water would break through the levees in New Orleans"
The movie starts off with non sequitorish behaviour. At 57 s, he shows a picture of the Apollo 8 mission to the moon. At 2:37 he shows calving glaciers, then pollution, and a from-space picture of Hurricane Katrinia
I'll admit the first disappointment was most hardhitting. I don't know what I was thinking. After the introduction, the first thing he said was "I am not going to spend much time on the science of it." Did I expect otherwise? I guess I did because my mouth dropped open. Of course then he went into a little animation explaining the greenhouse effect. It showed sunlight going in then leaving—without the greenhouse effect. Then, with the greenhouse effect—sunlight going in, and bouncing off of the ground, but most of it reflecting off of the atmosphere back to the ground. Interestingly, he showed a little cartoon to appeal to other audiences that broke down the situation well.
First a little girl's ice cream cone melts suddenly and she starts to cry. A man comes over (I believe modeled after the one from The Twilight Zone). Little Suzie (or whatever her name as) asks him why her ice cream melted. "Global Warming!" The cartoon goes on for a few minutes showing greenhouse effect in a completely unbiased way.
Light comes from the sun. The light is illustrated by a chipper, self-confident piece of fire/light that is in the form of a person. He is walking to the Earth through space with a huge grin on his face. However "nasty greenhouse gases" are portrayed as green blobules like amoebas, and are thugs. When the innocent ray of light gets to the Earth, he gets the **** beat out of him by a few greenhouse gases, his money is stolen, and the sunlight lays on top of the Earth, dead. More and more sunlight comes, the greenhouse gases mug all of them, until the entire Earth is covered in their stinking, rotting, dead corpses. "Their rotting corpses heat the Earth."
Secondly of disappointments, I was surprised to find that a lot of the movie was about him. That's right, about him, not AGW. I guess its his movie and he can do whatever he wants with it.
There was a pretty cool graph that was a hybrid of The Hockeystick (http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/USAToday060602.jpg ), and http://www.mwnx.net/users/mac/Climatology/temp%20and%20CO2%20since%20400,000%20vostokjpg.jpg , quite obviously correlating temperature and CO2 using Vostok ice core data with timespan 0-400,000 yrs (he may have used a 650,000 yr. one, I'm not sure). One of the climaxes of the movie was when he got on some kind of elevator to show the CO2 hockeystick at its current time. Then, following a linear regression, the projected CO2 goes up and up and up off the chart way above where the temperature is.
At 46 min and 2 seconds, he talks about polar bears drowning, with a helpful illustration of a polar bear working very well entirely on pathos.
Andre said:These Polar bears would be ROFL
http://www.churchillmb.net/~cnsc/ab-attrac-bears.html
http://gocanada.about.com/od/wester.../polarbears.htm
http://biology.usgs.gov/s+t/noframe/s034.htmThroughout the fall and especially just before freeze-up of the bay, increasing numbers of bears move towards the coast.
http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/pr...y/LC20050525043Numbers of bears captured per unit of effort, in the Beaufort Sea, also have increased, providing another indication of population growth. The few catch/effort data from the Chukchi Sea also suggest an increasing trend
More recent studies have found a 20 to 25 per cent increase in polar bear numbers across Canada.
t's not that nothing has been done:
http://www.polarbearsinternational.org/bear-facts/
[...]Polar bears are a potentialy threatened (not endangered) species living in the circumpolar north. They are animals which know no boundaries. They pad across the ice from Russia to Alaska, from Canada to Greenland and onto Norway's Svalbard archipelago. No adequate census exists on which to base a worldwide population estimate, but biologists use a working figure of perhaps 22,000 to 25,000 bears with about sixty percent of those living in Canada.
In most sections of the Arctic where estimates are available, polar bear populations are thought to be stable at present. Counts have been decreasing in Baffin Bay and the Davis Strait, where about 3,600 bears are thought to live, but are increasing in the Beaufort Sea, where there are around 3,000 bears.
In the 1960s and 1970s, polar bears were under such severe survival pressure that a landmark international accord was reached, despite the tensions and suspicions of the Cold War. The International Agreement on the Conservation of Polar Bears was signed in Oslo, November 15, 1973 by the five nations with polar bear populations (Canada, Denmark which governed Greenland at that time, Norway, the U.S., and the former U.S.S.R.).
The polar bear nations agreed to prohibit random, unregulated sport hunting of polar bears and to outlaw hunting the bears from aircraft and icebreakers as had been common practice. The agreement also obliges each nation to protect polar bear denning areas and migration patterns and to conduct research relating to the conservation and management of polar bears. Finally, the nations must share their polar bear research findings with each other. Member scientists of the Polar Bear Specialist Group meet every three to four years under the auspices of the IUCN World Conservation Union to coordinate their research on polar bears throughout the Arctic.
With the agreement in force, polar bear populations slowly recovered. The Oslo agreement is one of the first and most successful international conservation measures enacted in the 21st century.
I show that Polar Bears, which, incidentely, survived the early Holocene Thermal maximum (Hypsithermal) and the Medieval Warming Period, are thriving, increasing their numbers considerably, yet people continue to let them go extinct?
Immediately after this Al Gore explains how fresh meltwater from the last ice age caused floods in the North Atlantic that caused thermohaline circulation to completely shut down. My immediate reaction to this is to think "no freaking way," but I have not read anything about this.
He showed a graph concerning biodiversity that was pretty interesting. At a southern Switzerland station he graphed the amount of frost days going back some years, and superimposed the amount of invasive species coming into Switzerland. The correlation was astonishing.
It basically looked like this:
Code:
Frost days
_________
\ /
/\
________/ \
Species
He started talking about his enemies, the anti-global warmers. All I remember are some quotes I wrote down.
"There is a consensus of global warming."
"[Skeptics'] objective is to reposition global warming as a theory rather than fact."
(in a video of TheDr. Hanson): "We already know everything we need to know [to stop global warming]"
"We have solved an environmental problem before—the stratospheric ozone hole."
http://junkscience.com/Ozone/ozone_seasonal.htm
"This is a moral issue."
Can't we just stick with science? "http://www.crichton-official.com/fear/fear_main.shtml ! Carl Sagan wrote that we should get out of "the demon-haunted world" of our past.
Here are three other things he said that might start a conversation.
"Soil evaporation increases dramatically with temperature."
"Species lost is going up over 1000x faster than current rate."
"Scientists could predict precisely how much water would break through the levees in New Orleans"
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