If you want to solve a cubic equation

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Is that what you meant? In summary, the conversation discussed a numerical solution for cubic equations using the method of Newton and how it can be improved by calculating a starting point. The conversation also mentioned using MS Excel as a calculator and provided an example of solving a cubic equation using this method. The discussion also touched on the limitations of using Excel for high accuracy calculations.
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There is a very handy numerical solution for cubic equations like ## x^3+ax^2+bx+c=0## with ##x_i \in R## while [itex] a^2-3b \neq 0[/itex]. Though it makes use of the method of Newton, the starting point for the algorithm gives it a great advantage to the normal algorithm. And you can use MS Excel as an ordinary calculator!

We compute the parameter ##4d=\frac{-9\left(2a^3-9ab+27c\right)}{\sqrt{12\left(a^2-3b\right)^3-3\left(2a^3-9ab+27c\right)^2}}## for the composition of the equation ##f^3-4df^2-9f+4d=0##.

This equation has roots that satisfy ##f_j=\frac{f_i-3}{f_i+1}##.

Next thing to do is to calculate ##y_0=\frac{4d}{4+\sqrt{16d^2+25}}##.

We substitute ##y_0## in ## y_j=\frac{2y_i^3-4dy_i^2-4d}{3y_i^2-8dy_i-9}##.

This gives the value ##y_1##, repeating this step for ##y_1## gives ##y_2##. There is no need to go any further than ##y_2## as Excel can’t handle those accuracies any more.

Substitution of ##y_2=f_2## in ##f_j=\frac{f_i-3}{f_i+1}## gives ## f_i##. Then:

##x_i=-\frac{ab-9c}{2a^3-6b}+\frac{f_i}{18a^2-54b}\times \sqrt{12\left(a^2-3b\right)^3-3\left(2a^3-9ab+27c\right)^2}##.

Just an example: ##x^3+4x^2-18x-9=0##
##4d## = -2,655 292 734 356 2300
##y_0##= - 0,274 837 379 984 0870
##y_1## = - 0,275 027 669 928 0960
##y_2## = - 0,275 027 663 450 8140

Substitution gives
##x_1## = 3,000 000 000 000 0000
##x_2## = -0,458 618 734 850 8900
##x_3## = - 6,541 381 265 149 1100

Check on coefficients:
##a## = 4,000 000 000 000 0000
##b## = - 18, 000 000 000 000 0000
##c## = - 9,000 000 000 000 0000 In Excel!

For those who want to know: ##|f_2-y_0| < 0,00086## for every ##f_2 \in R##. So for practical use ##y_1## will suffice giving an accuracy of about 6 decimals.

Can anybody please tell me what to do about this ridiculous jumping too small figures in LaTeX? \Large doesn't do any good nor itex (the way I used it). Thanks.
 
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Looks like an interesting approach, especially the part about calculating a starting point. One of the deficiencies of Newton's method is that it can sometimes fail to converge if you start with an unfortunate initial guess.

edgo said:
Can anybody please tell me what to do about this ridiculous jumping too small figures in LaTeX? \Large doesn't do any good nor itex (the way I used it). Thanks.
Not sure what you mean, but I edited your post to replace all of the standalone LaTeX with inline LaTeX.
 

1. How do I solve a cubic equation?

Solving a cubic equation involves finding the roots or solutions to the equation. This can be done using various methods such as the cubic formula, factoring, or using the rational root theorem.

2. What is the cubic formula?

The cubic formula is a mathematical formula that can be used to find the roots of a cubic equation. It involves using the coefficients of the equation to plug into the formula and solving for the roots.

3. Can all cubic equations be solved?

Yes, all cubic equations have either one real root or three real roots. However, some equations may have complex or imaginary roots.

4. Are there any shortcuts for solving cubic equations?

Yes, there are some shortcuts such as the rational root theorem and the factor theorem, which can help in finding the roots of cubic equations without having to use the full cubic formula.

5. Can technology be used to solve cubic equations?

Yes, there are many online calculators and software programs that can solve cubic equations for you. However, it is still important to understand the concepts and methods behind solving these equations manually.

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