Bosonic action in M Theory -> IIA Theory

In summary: Basically, in the low energy limit of M Theory, you get a theory that is mostly bosonic, but contains some fermionic objects. As you increase the strength of the coupling between the particles, the number of fermionic objects increases until it dominates the theory. In the strong coupling limit of M Theory, where the coupling between particles is very strong, you get a theory that is completely fermionic.
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In various textbooks like Polchinski and in papers like Witten hep-th/9503124 they go through the process of starting with the bosonic action (in p-form notation) of M Theory and turning it into the action for IIA string theory.

I understand the process (ie dimensional reduction) which converts one action into another, but I don't understand why looking at just the bosonic part of the action is sufficent, given IIA includes fermions. During the process of compactifying and dimensional reduction the M Theory action splits into various parts, the NS-NS part, the R-R part and the CS part (ie a mixture of NS and R terms). Is it the case that M theory is a purely bosonic theory which then turns into a fermionic one when you reduce to 10 dimensions?

Thanks for any help :)
 
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Yes, IIA and M-theory are related, but where have you read that they're equivalent? One cannot fully obtain one from the other.
 
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Not so much directly equivalent, but that IIA is partly derived from taking an 11 dimensional theory and compactifying it on a circle in one dimension.

For instance, in the http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/hep-th/pdf/9503/9503124.pdf he considers the bosonic action for 11 dimensional super gravity, compactifies it and then turns it into the IIA bosonic action. This then shows that they are related through the various transformations (Paragraph starting 'So we need an eleven-dimensional...' on Page 10).

I'm confused why it's okay only to talk about the bosonic part. In the various bits of literature I've read they always start with the bosonic action for the 11 dimensional theory and don't mention fermions at all.

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Actually, have I just got this all muddled up. It's not that M Theory reduces to IIA, but that you can turn 11d super gravity into IIA via dimensional reduction, and that super gravity is the low energy, long distance limit of M Theory, which is an as yet incomplete theory since short distance physics at strong coupling is not yet understood.
 
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Not all of the objects in IIA can be obtained by dimensional reduction of ordinary eleven dimensional supergravity. In particular, this is true of D0-branes. Now, it is an R-R gauge boson that couples to D0-branes, so D0-branes are in the bosonic sector of IIA. In the limit of large string coupling g>>1, the spectrum of D0-branes becomes a continuum of light states. This is characteristic of a system acquiring an additional large spacetime dimension. Thus there is an eleventh dimension that appears in IIA for g>>1 that doesn’t appear in the perturbative sector of IIA - the sector in which g<1 when D0-branes don’t appear. Thus M-theory (by which we mean the stringy eleven dimensional supergravity) may be discovered in the strong coupling limit of the bosonic sector of IIA, so - and this is the point - although IIA has a fermionic sector, it's irrelevant for this.
 
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Thanks Josh. You've pretty much confirmed (with a tweak or two) what I had in my head for how they all sort of mesh together.
 

1. What is "Bosonic action" in M Theory and IIA Theory?

In theoretical physics, the "Bosonic action" is a mathematical formula used to describe the behavior of particles that have integer spin, such as photons and gluons. In the context of M Theory and IIA Theory, this formula is used to describe the dynamics of the bosonic fields in these theories.

2. How does the Bosonic action differ between M Theory and IIA Theory?

The Bosonic action in M Theory and IIA Theory is different because these two theories have different numbers of dimensions. M Theory has 11 dimensions, while IIA Theory has only 10 dimensions. This difference in dimensions leads to different terms in the Bosonic action formula.

3. What is the significance of the Bosonic action in M Theory and IIA Theory?

The Bosonic action is significant because it describes the behavior of particles and fields in these two important theories. It helps us understand how these particles and fields interact with each other and how the theories work as a whole. In addition, the Bosonic action plays a key role in the formulation of other important concepts, such as supersymmetry.

4. Can the Bosonic action in M Theory and IIA Theory be experimentally tested?

No, the Bosonic action is a mathematical formula and cannot be directly tested in experiments. However, the predictions and implications of this formula can be tested through experiments, such as particle accelerators, that can probe the behavior of particles and fields described by the Bosonic action.

5. How does the Bosonic action in M Theory and IIA Theory relate to other theories, such as string theory?

M Theory and IIA Theory are both considered to be part of the larger framework of string theory, which attempts to reconcile the fundamental forces of the universe. The Bosonic action in these two theories is a key component of this framework and is used to describe the behavior of particles and fields within the string theory framework.

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