Hidden variable in SR and GR Relativity?

In summary: Phi}{\partial x}=H\Phi-\hbar \frac{\partial \Phi}{\partial y}=H\Phi-\hbar \frac{\partial \Phi}{\partial z}=H\Phi
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Karlisbad
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"Hidden variable" in SR and GR Relativity??..

My question is, since we live in a 3-D world, what would happen for an "alien" living on a 4-D world??..if we suppose that space-time has only 4 dimension, and that after a Wick rotation then [tex] X_{0} =it [/tex] then what we think is just a time component for this being would be only an spatial component... then this "being" to describe the evolution and dynamics of its world would need to insert an extra parameter "s" (unphysical??) that we can't see or measure so [tex] X_{\mu}(s)=X_{\mu} [/tex], in this case i think that the "evolution" of a quantity in GR should depend on this "s" and hence:

[tex] g_{ab}(x(s),y(s),z(s),t(s)) [/tex] and [tex] L_{E-H}=\int_{a}^{b}ds\(-g)^{1/2}R(s)ds [/tex]
 
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Karlisbad said:
My question is, since we live in a 3-D world
No we don't; we live in a 3+1-D universe.
 
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Hurkyl said:
No we don't; we live in a 3+1-D universe.

OK,OK Hurkyl..but if we make a "Wick Rotation" (from real to complex plane) the Lorentz metric becomes just [tex] g_{ab}x^{a}x^{b} [/tex] where all the diagonal components are just 1 and the rest 0 (Euclidean 4metric) in fact:

- To describe the dynamic of a particle in one dimension we define two parameters [tex] (x,t) [/tex]
- To describe the dynamic of a particle in 2 dimension we need to define [tex] (x,y,t) [/tex]
- Hence to define the dynamic of a particle in 4-dimension we need ¡¡5 parameters¡¡ [tex] (x,y,z,t) [/tex] However we only can define x,y,z and t physically
 
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There is no notion of time in a 4+0-D universe. It's just space. Why would there be dynamics?
 
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The Question Hurkyl..from the Physical point of view is that Physicist always need to look at the "Dynamic" of everything (space-time, particles, and so on) we always look in quantization expressions of the form:

[tex] i\hbar \frac{\partial \Phi}{\partial t}=H\Phi [/tex]
 
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Physicists only look at dynamics because they're studying a 3+1-dimensional universe. When you change the problem to a 4+0-dimensional universe, you study it in a way appropriate for a purely spatial universe. e.g. in (it, x, y, z) coordinates, you'd use a "quantization expression" of the form

[tex] -\hbar \frac{\partial \Phi}{\partial (it)}=H\Phi [/tex]
 

1. What is a hidden variable in SR and GR Relativity?

A hidden variable in SR and GR Relativity refers to a theoretical concept that suggests there are additional, unknown factors or variables that determine the behavior of particles and objects in the universe. These variables are not accounted for in the equations of relativity, and their existence has not been proven or confirmed.

2. What is the significance of hidden variables in relativity?

The existence of hidden variables in relativity has been a topic of debate among scientists and philosophers. Some argue that their existence could provide a deeper understanding of the fundamental laws of the universe, while others believe that the concept of hidden variables is unnecessary and goes against the principles of relativity.

3. How do hidden variables impact the principles of relativity?

The concept of hidden variables can potentially challenge the principles of relativity, which state that the behavior and interactions of particles and objects in the universe can be explained by known physical laws and constants. Hidden variables suggest that there may be unknown factors at play, which could contradict this principle.

4. Can hidden variables be measured or observed?

As of now, there is no experimental evidence to support the existence of hidden variables. Therefore, they cannot be measured or observed. However, some scientists are still exploring the possibility of detecting hidden variables through advanced experiments and technologies.

5. How do hidden variables relate to the concept of determinism?

Hidden variables are often associated with the concept of determinism, which suggests that all events and phenomena in the universe are determined by previous causes. Some scientists argue that if hidden variables do exist, they could potentially support determinism by providing a complete explanation for all physical events. However, this remains a highly debated topic in the scientific community.

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