Calculating Escape Velocity for Reaching Altitude of 800km

In summary, the conversation is about finding the minimum speed at which a body must be projected vertically upward from the Earth's surface to reach an altitude of 800 km without air resistance. The formula used is Kf + Uf = Ki + Ui, where Kf is the final kinetic energy, Uf is the final gravitational potential energy, Ki is the initial kinetic energy, and Ui is the initial gravitational potential energy. With the given values of 800 km for altitude, 6.37x10^6 m for the radius of Earth, and 5.99x10^24 kg for the mass of Earth, the minimum speed is calculated to be 3.74x10^3 m/s. The conversation also discusses
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Q: In the absenceof air resistance, the least speed with which a body must be projected vertically upward from the Earth's surface if it is to reach an altitude of 800km is...

800km = 8.00x10^5 m
radius of Earth = 6.37x10^6 m
mass of Earth = 5.99x10^24 kg

Kf +Uf = Ki + Ui
0 + 0 = 1/2 mv^2 + (- G Me m / Re + 800km )
1/2 mv^2 = G Me m / Re +800km
m drops out
v = square root of [ (2)(6.67x10^-11)(5.99x10^24)/(7.17x10^6) ]
v = 1.06x10^4 m/s

is this right? thanks in advance for the help
 
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  • #2
Look at your Uf and Ui. Are you sure that Uf is 0? Are you sure about that expression for Ui?

-Dale
 
  • #3
The change in kinetic energy = change in gravitational potential energy if one neglects air resistance (i.e. nonconservative forces).

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/gpot.html

So the objective is to find the initial velocity at which a projectile will leave the Earth's surface, r1 = re, and travel to a radius, r2 = re + 800 km.

So there is an initial KE and GPE and a final KE and GPE, the total energy (KE + GPE) being equal. KE = kinetic energy and GPE being gravitational potential energy.

The minimum speed coincides with KEf = 0, and thus KEi = 1/2 mvi2 = [itex]\Delta[/itex]GPE.
 
  • #4
Your initial potential energy muz include the energy of the body on the surface of the earth... It's not zero.
 
  • #5
ok i think i have it now

Kf + Uf = Ki + Ui
0 [because its a minimum velocity] + ( -G Me m / Re +800km ) [potential at 800km] = 1/2 m v^2 + ( -G Me m / Re ) [potential at the begining, the surface of the earth]

then through some algebra we can solve for v

2 [ {-(6.67x10^-11)(5.98x10^24)/(6.37x10^6)+(8.00x10^5)} + {(6.67x10^-11)(5.98x10^24)/(6.37x10^6)} ] = v^2

v = 3.74x10^3 m/s is this right?

hoping my arithmetic is right but i think i got it thanks in advancefor verification!
 
  • #6
Yup.. tat shld be the correct ans.
 

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