Confusion with very basic algebra

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the points t in (0, 2\pi) that satisfy the equation sint=sin4t. The speaker uses the fact that sinA=sinB <==> A=B+2n\pi (n\in\mathbb{Z}) to find the solutions t=2n\pi/3 (n\in\mathbb{Z}). However, there are 7 intersection points when using the "indirect method" of finding zeros, which is confirmed by a calculator. The speaker wonders why the direct method using only properties of sine does not give the same answer. Another speaker explains that sin(x) is periodic with period 2pi and not one-to-one on a given
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I'm trying to find the points t in (0,2[itex]\pi[/itex]) such that sint=sin4t. So I use the fact that sinA=sinB <==> A=B+2n[itex]\pi[/itex] ([itex]n\in\mathbb{Z}[/itex]), which yields t=2n[itex]\pi[/itex]/3 ([itex]n\in\mathbb{Z}[/itex]). The only solutions of this in (0,2[itex]\pi[/itex]) are 2[itex]\pi[/itex]/3 and 4[itex]\pi[/itex]/3.

However, there are 7 intersection points, says the "indirect method" of finding the zeros in (0,2[itex]\pi[/itex]) of sint-sin4t = sint+sin(-4t) =2sin(3t/2)cos(5t/2).

The number 7 is also confirmed by my calculator. So why doesn't the direct method using only the properties of sine, give the correct answer?? :confused:
 
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sinA=sinB <=> A=B+2npi or A=(2n+1)pi-B. Remember that sin(x) is periodic with period 2pi, but not one-to-one on a given period (ie, there are points within a single period with the same sin).
 
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Hey, you're right! Thanks StatusX.
 

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